Chaincase Oil Seal Install ?

Hey guys' maybe someone will know, when installing the oil seals back into the chaincase what depth does a person install them too? Do they go flush with the case(outside)or do they go against the bearing ?There of course is no lip or ring on the case for the seal to stop against so this is why I ask !

right against the bearing. than the little collar on the shaft slips into the seal.

Much appr.

Thought so but it's always good to ask as manuals don't really specify this, thanks again.

Thx for the info guys I had the same issue

Well I may disagree! I replaced bearings and seals and after installing the top seal as you guys' indicate (flush to bearing) the top one leaks oil. So I took off the case and looked everything over and put that collar into the seal which butts up against the bearing and noticed that the seal doesn't have much contact to the collar. Now with that seal being installed flush to the housing the collar fits deeper into the seal which would probably really keep the oil in. So I'm going with this install of the seal and see what will happen.