Yamiblue
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When someone studded my track they started the pattern wrong and and the majority of the studs are behind the track lugs , therefore not helping allot.Question is can a track be run in the opposite direction to get the studs in front of the lugs...........thanx
also can i remove some of the studs without fear of damaging the track..Has 144(allot of rotating mass)and i'd like to take some out.
sled is '01 sxr700 if it matters
also can i remove some of the studs without fear of damaging the track..Has 144(allot of rotating mass)and i'd like to take some out.
sled is '01 sxr700 if it matters
yamahamark
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I'm not a big fan of studs it shortens the life of a track. Yes you can turn the track around and in my opinion when you turn the track around it hooks just as good as studs I run all my tracks backwards.
Yes you can flip a track around... it will hook harder and break not as well... but with studs it wont matter so much.
shaggyzr2
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You can remove the studs without damaging the track, I've done it many times.
caravanman
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Whether the studs are in front of behind the lugs would make much if any difference IMO.
I rode for many years without studs BUT once I studded my own machine and felt the difference first hand I won't ride any other way. So much more control in icy corners, never mind the grip when launching on ice.
Of my 5 machines I have never had a stud pull out or track be damaged by a stud.
I rode for many years without studs BUT once I studded my own machine and felt the difference first hand I won't ride any other way. So much more control in icy corners, never mind the grip when launching on ice.
Of my 5 machines I have never had a stud pull out or track be damaged by a stud.
yamahamark
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Caravanman you must have some good luck 
because every time I get on a sled with a studded track I seem to rip a couple out. My 97 600 has a studded track and the first time I rode it I pulled 2 studs and rip a piece of the track on the outer edge.
because every time I get on a sled with a studded track I seem to rip a couple out. My 97 600 has a studded track and the first time I rode it I pulled 2 studs and rip a piece of the track on the outer edge.opsled
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No,, You must have bad luck. Studs done right and ridden right don't damage a track. They DO make controlling a sled 100% easier on ice/hard pack type conditions. Deep/loose snow they don't do a thing. I wouldn't be without them on average trail conditions.
opsled
To the original Q...
Don't turn the track around. Can be done but as Mrsled said it hinders the ability to stop. Unless you are racing stud pattern isn't all that important. They just need to be a little bit higher than the track lug.
Every stud put into a track is either in front of or behind a track lug no matter which way the track is installed so I really don't know why you have an issue.
opsled
drew24
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As long as the studs are sticking out past the lugs it shouldn't matter if they are in front or behind the lug.
I haven't tried on any of the newer tracks, but when we ran the track of the 80's and 90's sleds backwards they launched good on hardpack, but didn't want to stop at all. Let me stress, they just won't stop!!!
Stud pull-thru or track damage in general is caused by too few studs grabbing traction at one point in time. Sometimes there simply aren't enough studs to match the horsepower. Other times spinning the track on low snow where it can occasionally grab dirt or pavement on only a few studs will do it. Another cause is having too long of studs (it is after all a lever). Riding off-trail in low snow or in areas where you can catch rocks or logs will do it too. Riding on trail and avoiding spinning the track with the right number of studs and a good pattern will rarely cause any damage. Of course what fun is that?
Basically if you balance the horsepower across enough studs at any point in time, they can handle it. If you expect fewer studs to carry the load for any reason, damage can and will likely occur.
Stud pull-thru or track damage in general is caused by too few studs grabbing traction at one point in time. Sometimes there simply aren't enough studs to match the horsepower. Other times spinning the track on low snow where it can occasionally grab dirt or pavement on only a few studs will do it. Another cause is having too long of studs (it is after all a lever). Riding off-trail in low snow or in areas where you can catch rocks or logs will do it too. Riding on trail and avoiding spinning the track with the right number of studs and a good pattern will rarely cause any damage. Of course what fun is that?
Basically if you balance the horsepower across enough studs at any point in time, they can handle it. If you expect fewer studs to carry the load for any reason, damage can and will likely occur.
Shouldn't matter that the studs are behind as long as they are longer then the paddles, you ride on the the tips.
caravanman
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Currently 300 miles shy of 10K on my 96 XT without a single stud issue. 7k on the wifes 95 600 LE.
I have replaced some studs thru the years due to normal tip wear.
Like the others as said it must have a lot to do with how many studs are used and how it is ridden.
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