t-rav
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Hey guys I was out with my700 improver today and was only getting 8000 rpm and I cleaned and adgusted power valves so they are good motor is race ported ported case cut heads 15:1 on C14 40:1 mix with bender 9800-10 200 pipes there bender mods and was only pulling 8000 rpms today
t-rav
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Sorry clutching was a advant edge helix not sure angle but close to 51/43 as it reacts the same as my 51/43 red spring at 60 deg primary is green green green 2 shims with 8bu-10s that weight 44.9 grams something is goin wrong just can't figure it out
MET
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What CDI box are you using? (The redhead SX CDI wont open the powervalves.) Have you dyno tuned/jetted it? How was the piston wash today? I ran 45/39, 46/36 with green spring on grass with my improver back in 2000.
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t-rav
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Ya it jetted got a 50 pilot 157.5 mains 2 turns out on a/f plugs looked good but I'm 1800 rpms short I need to be around 9800 rpms and it's a bender high rpm cdi box
MET
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Are you running the weights empty then, no rivets? Base 8BU-10 weight is 45.4grams. I used primary springs with a 300-320lb finish. GGG is rated at 288lbs. Could try the p/g/p yam pri spring, it is approx. 305lbs.
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YAMMIEGOD3:16
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i don,t like your primary spring first. second i don,t like your secondary spring, and i don,t like your twist. 8bu-10 are 45.50 grams emptie so i assume you light,en these up. used the h/c white spring 170-300. use the green yamaha spring at 2-6 twist for starters. be around a 50-40 50-38 helix. what gearing ? 3:16x (yammie tony)
t-rav
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Gearing is 23/42 and yes the 8bu-10s are lightened abit and we are running 1320ft distance machine needs to be close to 10 000 rpms
t-rav
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Could there possibly be an issue in the electrical system like a bad stator possibly
mrviper700
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helix way too big for that rpm with that much primary weight and that primary spring. youll need a lot less finish angle
t-rav
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Have u ever seen the stator being an issue cause I've tried a lot of helixs even a 36 finish Dalton and still no luck
mrviper700
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what does the tach reading look like from start to finish? does it ever go above 8000rpm or ?????
t-rav
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Max maybee 8100 rpms but never seen more but mostly at 8000
YAMMIEGOD3:16
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i use 23-37 for 1/4 mile on asphalt, now i am running 8500, but been 120 plus. this is with 8bu-10. 3:16x (yammie tony)
t-rav
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I need to be be close to 10 000 rpms and 1320ft on ice looking to be in 130s for mph running a friends setup that he has a record with in his 600 so I must be close just must have another issue
MET
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Did you try any of the suggestions such as a heavier primary spring or lighter weights? They are fast and easy ways of trouble shooting and eliminating things. There is a good possibility that your buds 600 clutch setup wont work with your particular 700 improver motor.
t-rav
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HIS 600 WAS An improver made lots of power and I will order a different primary print and the weights are fairly light at 44.9 grams