ReaperSRX
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I know its the end of the season, but because of a late start to winter and a new job i really didn't get alot of seat time on my newly converted 2000 SRX with 136 Ripsaw and longtravel'd rear. After a quite a few adjustments with limiters (now at 43mm) and front shock adjustments (Ohlin's with extensions) and lower settings on adj transfer rods and USI project X skis with 6"carbides and ski savers....i still get a push in the corners with very little throttle and just seems to not have enough weight on the front. At first i had the same sympton as most guys with the back of the track sitting way up but after adjustments it did come down some.....so my un-educated guess is that the front is still not at the right height to compensate for the increase in the rear, this strike of genius came to me after looking on EBAY at the brackets this guy is selling for $25 , it seems to make sense, if you raised the the rear from like 8" to 11.5" you need to raise the front to some degree to compensate. Now i have put the Ohlin's extension but they really on give like at 1/2" on height......so my long winded story ends with....who has worked on this problem and does my solution make sense?
Thanks a bunch.............James
Thanks a bunch.............James
yamaholic22
Active member
his idea did look like it would work to me as well. I'm not sure where 43mm is on the limiters, i kind of just do it by feel, but you can try to pull the limiters up some more, tighen the preload on the front springs, or soften the center preload. I'm not sure if the ski savers will make it push some, because i know dooly's really make them push quite a bit in the corners.
bluewho
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Junior
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reaper, having a lower ride height in the front is gonna shift your weight balance forward, but it's gonna be by an amount that's so minimal I doubt you'd ever feel it, I don't think weight balance is your problem here, problem is traction balance, you've got alot more grip in the rear now than you did before, you're gonna need more carbide to keep her planted.
yamaholic22
Active member
exactly, more carbide and more ski pressure
ReaperSRX
Member
So i will need to increase front preload with limiters, i already have them at 43mm, i guess i will go higher next year and loosen off that front spring, but this will take away more of the shock travel right, as for carbides the ones on there are like brand new so they will stay...too cheap to replace..HA HA
yamaholic22
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and get those front spring preloads cranked way up to really push those skis down in the corners
ReaperSRX
Member
With the Ohlin's shock extensions there really isn't a lot of preload left, i think a got another half inch at best left, maybe i should look at long springs?
yamaholic22
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a half inch really should make a pretty big difference though. Give it a try and see what happens, then go from there.
skidooboy
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james, on my srx i couldnt get the limiters tight enough on mine with the limter adjusters bottomed out. i took off the straps cut another hole aprox 1" shorter and started in the middle tightening till i got the desired results, yes you lose front arm travel but you get your ski pressure. make sure you set the tension to zero preload, ie: loosen the front spring on the rear suspension so it spins by hand, with the weight of the sled on the track (not suspended in air). also if you dont have longer transfer rods, add 7.5-10mm spacers at bottom of rods to get more drop out. this will help the rear of the sled sit up higher adding more needed pressure to skis. ski
yamaholic22
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eric don't you mean to add the spacers to the TOP of the rods? Adding them to the bottom will just limit the drop out more.
ReaperSRX
Member
Thanks for the info Eric, my only problem is how to loosen off that shock spring in the front of the skid, is there some kinda of trick, i can't seem to able to get in there to loosen off the jam nut, and i do have longer transfer rods, i have adj rods from Advantedge............James
skidooboy
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i use a hammer and a long angled end pry bar. swat it a few times and the jamb nut will loosen. if not pull the skid so you can get at it. the front spring gives you all your ski pressure. if you just tighten the limiters the spring gets tighter (stiffer) and it negates how far down you pulled the straps. yami22 no you add spacers lengthening the bottom of the rod and that lets the rod be longer. i'm not talking about the white plastic spacers on the top and bottom of the rods but a spacer for the shafts themselves. in a pinch i have used a nut and rounded the corners letting both the white spacer and the rod holder slide freely across the rod extension. with the rods longer (bruce at pioneer sends 7.5mm rod extensions in his long travel kit. thats where i got the idea) the rear suspension will sit up slightly higher and give more "drop out' when the suspension unloads at the top of its travel. ski
yamaholic22
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oh ok i gotcha eric, i thought you were talking about the nylon spacers, which if added to the bottom would further limit the drop out. Spacers that extend the length of the rods themselves would be a good idea.
Michael
Michael
ReaperSRX
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I never thought of using a long prybar! well i will have the skid out summer to to regular check maintenance but will keep that tid bit in mind for next season if i have to make further adjustments.........James