Just started reading about Benders Reaction Mono-Shock Suspension upgrade kit. How do you feel this suspension will compare to an M-10 under me Viper?
L84Work
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From listening to Bender, I would say it is better than an M-10... However, I don't think anyone will truly know until after we get some trail time on them.
pro116
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I seen it at hayday except for some brackets it look's real similar to the new mono shock skids.They wanted right about 1000.00 for the kit.For a couple hundred more yould go to an expert skid and still have your original or buy a polaris skid or cat skid and you can pick them up at grass drag swap's for around 300-350.00.
SRX MAINE
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I was looking at the bender system for my srx, but they are very slow with the email returns. Anyone talk to this vendor yet?
Also There Customer Service Isnt So Hot,and There Right In My Back Yard
ejcamaro
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I ordered mine right after Haydays and its not going to ship untill mid to late October.
Cuzino19
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bender gets there parts for that suspension from yamaha. The only thing different from that suspension and the mono shock is the shock. It just the same but different brackets and a different shock. Its not worth 1100 dollars. Go for the M10.
ejcamaro
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The m-10 is outdated and slow. First you spend 1,500 on the suspension, then another 200 for the oversize wheel kit to get your top end back. You can spend 700 bucks less and get the same suspension as the brand new 06' Yamis, only with a better shock (except maybe the ohlins on the gt). Sounds like a good deal to me.?.? 1,000 bucks and suddenly my srx is interesting again.
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jimmie d
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Do you really think you are going to get a complete monoshock with an updated shock with dial adjust for $1,000 or is that what he wants to UPGRADE an 05 so it works better and has more reliability. As far as the M10 being out dated that is what they said with the monoshock in 05 until it started having huge maintanance problems.
Jim
Jim
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ejcamaro
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Alright Jim, you obviously haven't heard about the new re-action suspension kit from Bender racing. It gives you all the parts (including penske shock) to convert your pro-action over to the new monoshock setup. And yes, I paid $1,000 for the whole deal. Complete. You reuse your old rails and wheels. It's kinda a big deal right now to us looking to upgrade and wanting to know the options. And if the M-10 is better than the monoshock, then there should be alot of people unbolting theirs from brand new Apex's and installing M-10's, not gonna happen.
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SRX MAINE
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Jim, what kind of problems did they have?As far as the M10 being out dated that is what they said with the monoshock in 05 until it started having huge maintanance problems
I'm curious about this. I'm about to buy the same set up, if they answer there emails
Also, there was a post i did last week asking about M10 of the srx
after a little digging, I found that, "yes" most the parts are the same
but you could never put it together for what they offer it for.
Here's the system with the 05 RX1 breakdown.
Looks like some locator brackets & a different shock
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n2oiroc
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only thing i heard was a lack of grease fittings on the 05's only. the bender kit has grease fittings.SRX MAINE said:Jim, what kind of problems did they have?
I'm curious about this. I'm about to buy the same set up, if they answer there emails
jimmie d
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Go to the 4 stroke forum and you will find many topics on the 05 mono. If bottomed there was a lot of problems with W arm cracks, pre-mature bearing wear, idler wheel wear, adjustment cable breakage and stretching, the boot that held the cable tearing, just did not hold up. Look at the 06 and you will see a tremendous difference in the beefyness of the monoshock. The grease fittings or lack of is a tremendous problem that the owners will have to correct by adding zerks, not a lot of money but should have come from Yamaha that way. IMHO Yamaha rushed out the Mono as the existing suspensions were so bad and such a high percentage of RX1 owners, including myself, were going to other manufacturers suspensions that it was embaressing.
Why keep the wheels and rails as I believe those are also changed in 06?
Why keep the wheels and rails as I believe those are also changed in 06?
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n2oiroc
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because yamaha would want $250+ each rail and proaction ones work just fine. they need to cut costs where they can.Jim Drake said:Go to the 4 stroke forum and you will find many topics on the 05 mono. If bottomed there was a lot of problems with W arm cracks, pre-mature bearing wear, idler wheel wear, adjustment cable breakage and stretching, the boot that held the cable tearing, just did not hold up. Look at the 06 and you will see a tremendous difference in the beefyness of the monoshock. The grease fittings or lack of is a tremendous problem that the owners will have to correct by adding zerks, not a lot of money but should have come from Yamaha that way. IMHO Yamaha rushed out the Mono as the existing suspensions were so bad and such a high percentage of RX1 owners, including myself, were going to other manufacturers suspensions that it was embaressing.
Why keep the wheels and rails as I believe those are also changed in 06?
SRX MAINE
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Jim, you have really good points here, but the cable & adj. shock won't be a problem to the Bender system (it doesn't have it)If bottomed there was a lot of problems with W arm cracks, pre-mature bearing wear, idler wheel wear, adjustment cable breakage and stretching, the boot that held the cable tearing, just did not hold up.
But, I would be interested in know more about the pre-mature wheels & bearing wear? (do you have any links to the threads in 4 stroke)
Did yamaha ever say why or have a recall for something like track adjustment?
Also, I hope Bender didn't buy up all the 05 (less beefy) parts to use on there new mono skid update.
I think I'm gonna do the Viper shock route for this year & wait to see how
people like it
ejcamaro
Life Member
Jim Drake said:Why keep the wheels and rails as I believe those are also changed in 06?
Because the wheels and rails on my 01' Srx are fine and don't have the problems that the 05' monoshock setup have. I also am an owner of an 05' RX-1 with the so called "bad suspension" and have had absolutely no problems. I'm not trying to slam you here Jim, but you should really check out what we're talking about before you say it will never work, or its not a good deal. If it works anywhere near as good as my 05' (and it should work better) I will be extremely happy with it under my old sled for alot less than any other aftermarket setup.
SRX MAINE
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I got to talk to a rep at Bender today, here is some of my questions and answers.
When will it be available?
Sometime mid November-ish now
Are these systems parts 05 leftovers or new 06?
Nether he said, but they are copies of the 06, but a little beefier (more gussets & zerks)
Has it been tested?
Not enough, That's the delay for release. They want to do real snow testing first to fine tune
Any Warranty?
Yes, one season or so
How many ordered so far?
25 to 30
Does it need to be paid in full to get on the list?
No, they are taking deposits.
This was the lip service I got today & i feel it sound pretty good
Hope this helps
Bob
When will it be available?
Sometime mid November-ish now
Are these systems parts 05 leftovers or new 06?
Nether he said, but they are copies of the 06, but a little beefier (more gussets & zerks)
Has it been tested?
Not enough, That's the delay for release. They want to do real snow testing first to fine tune
Any Warranty?
Yes, one season or so
How many ordered so far?
25 to 30
Does it need to be paid in full to get on the list?
No, they are taking deposits.
This was the lip service I got today & i feel it sound pretty good
Hope this helps
Bob