Looking at putting Ice Scratchers on my 02 700MM for those trail rides until I can get to the powder. Was wondering if anyone has done this and if they have any pictures of the finished product. I have also read that all the boggie wheels can be taken off. Is this true or not. Thanks.
TJ500
Member
installed a set from Hartman (attach to the skis) on my MM... broke two full sets after forgetting to lift them before using reverse...
VERY hard to remember to lift them if you are using reverse..
Was a good product but had to remove them completely because they were getting expensive to replace.... just something to consider..
tj
VERY hard to remember to lift them if you are using reverse..
Was a good product but had to remove them completely because they were getting expensive to replace.... just something to consider..
tj
MtnMax600
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I put some on my Mtn Viper because of overheating on packed trails. Havent had a problem since. I bought mine from a guy on snowest, username summitseeker. Great product and a good price. I dont have reverse but Ive driven onto the trailer quite a few times with them down and havent had a problem yet. It is hard to remember to put them up.
Excuse me for asking a stupid question, but what are ice scratchers?
TJ500 said:
I second the hartman ski mounted ice scratchers. They only work with SIMMONS SKIS though but work like a dream when installed. you have to drill out a notch on the ski to hang them up when you dont need them. the spring pressure from the scratcher will keep them in place in the notch you drill out. no disappointments at all.
nben,
By taking all the boggie wheels off doesn't this create more contact or pressure between the hyfax and the track. Is this kosher if a person does alot more trail than powder riding.
By taking all the boggie wheels off doesn't this create more contact or pressure between the hyfax and the track. Is this kosher if a person does alot more trail than powder riding.
slednek,
Ice scratchers are coiled springs that mount to the skid unit so if you are on a packed or groomed trail you can put the spring down to chip up snow to cool your machine and the hyfax wear the track rides. See nben photo and look close you can see the piece of wire looking thing attached to the skid unit. If you go to snowest and do a search for ice scratchers it will come up with a lot of matches. Hope this helps.
Ice scratchers are coiled springs that mount to the skid unit so if you are on a packed or groomed trail you can put the spring down to chip up snow to cool your machine and the hyfax wear the track rides. See nben photo and look close you can see the piece of wire looking thing attached to the skid unit. If you go to snowest and do a search for ice scratchers it will come up with a lot of matches. Hope this helps.
A K MtnViper
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simmons makes snow deflectors that mount on their skis $25. They do not scratch the ice or snow, but aim what the skis and scaggs kick up right to the skid and coolers. Install is 2 minutes with a ratchet and you get to leave your wheels on. I get about 2,500 miles per set of hyfax. With the Hartman springs on the skis, the combo would probably be great.
My last trip to the UP, I got about 180 miles out of a set of hyfax. Pretty disappointing, we stopped at a dealer because my buddy had an electrical problem and I thought I would look the sled over. I bought a pair right then and replaced them in the parking lot.I really think I got a bad set (from Parts Unlimited), the new set wore just fine in worse conditions.
Has anyone put the extra set of bogies on their sled? Does this help? I have heard many times that Yamahas are known for blowing through hyfax - for trail riding.
Would any or both of these help my situation? My track is not too tight - loose enough but doesn't rachet.
Tank1 said:
So far so good. I would say this year I have ridden 50/50 on/off trail due to lack of snow in the northeast. I also run an every-third-window 144 track. I have ridden into our playgrounds on some down right horrible trails this year and have had no problems with sticking or sled overheating with the scratchers down. One of my riding buddies just put a set on his wife's warrior 136" and we were able to fit them on the rail with removing only one set of outside wheels. Like everyone says, don't back up.
Viper Treats
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slednek said:
I really think I got a bad set (from Parts Unlimited), the new set wore just fine in worse conditions.
Has anyone put the extra set of bogies on their sled? Does this help? I have heard many times that Yamahas are known for blowing through hyfax - for trail riding.
Would any or both of these help my situation? My track is not too tight - loose enough but doesn't rachet.
If you have the proaction skid, they are known to wear through right in the front where the track comes around the curve. If you pull in the limiter and loosen the front rear suspension shock you can eliminate the problem, but that creates more ski pressure. So the low snow wheel kit does work OK if you don't want to go that way.