Need some opinions, has anyone had both? Which one do you like better?
Could a tripple piped viper stand a chance?
long travel srx vs viper?
I'm debating on which way to go. I like the pros on both but .....I quess ya can't have both.
Like to ride the bumps hard, corner fast and take her on the lake a few times.
Thanks for any advice
Could a tripple piped viper stand a chance?
long travel srx vs viper?
I'm debating on which way to go. I like the pros on both but .....I quess ya can't have both.
Like to ride the bumps hard, corner fast and take her on the lake a few times.
Thanks for any advice
snowmonkey
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srx vs viper
the viper is a machine of all new tech. I compared it to driving a caddy vs a vw. The viper is the way to go unless all you want is speed, then just get the fastest one.
the viper is a machine of all new tech. I compared it to driving a caddy vs a vw. The viper is the way to go unless all you want is speed, then just get the fastest one.
BlueByYou2000
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Both great sleds. It would be cheaper to Pipe the Viper and work with the stock suspension than to long travel the SRX. Also clutched right, a piped Viper is an animal, although the same can be said for the SRX. If it were me, it would be a tough choice, but Id most likely opt for the Viper with pipes just for the suspension reason. But then again, nothing handles like a SRX on a groomed trail. IMO the SRX is the finest handeling sled ever built. Im not talking big bump handeling, im talking flat trail handeling. It corners like its on rails and is very easy to drive. It feels like a indy car. The SRX is a legend!!!
Now that I have you totally confused. Good Luck making up your mind, you cant go wrong either way...BBY
Now that I have you totally confused. Good Luck making up your mind, you cant go wrong either way...BBY
mulderdad
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Both great yammies. I have a srx7 and think she rocks.
I am also sure that most viper owners feel the same about their
vipers. I will agree that a viper has a better ride and can handle the bumps, however if you want BALLS TO THE WALL excitement and handling then the srx is the way to go. As to the comparison about the caddy vs vw. A little harsh. Hey snowmonkey do you ride a viper?
If so, I'd like to go for a ride with ya and show off my vw.
hehehe
latr,
mul
I am also sure that most viper owners feel the same about their
vipers. I will agree that a viper has a better ride and can handle the bumps, however if you want BALLS TO THE WALL excitement and handling then the srx is the way to go. As to the comparison about the caddy vs vw. A little harsh. Hey snowmonkey do you ride a viper?
If so, I'd like to go for a ride with ya and show off my vw.
hehehe
latr,
mul
chance3131
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I have had a viper with out pipes and a few mods, and the ride wasn't what I expected, but I truely believe the biggest downfall was the harsh seat on my 02. Now I have an 02 SRX and don't want to part with it. Sure the suspension isn't all that great, but man it rocks and I love the arm stretching feeling. I hear the piped vipers rock, and with a softer seat that would be the way to go, except I hear the gas mileage is poor, but then again, if you want pure speed your back to the srx and good mileage. If you ride rough trails, get a viper with the updated seat. If you want a stock machine with balls, get a srx. The mileage thing is personal choice of how far you want to ride without passing a gas station. Both are great looking handling sleds with unique characteristics, so I'm sure I haven't helped out at all here. Good luck.
This is all good, I didn't know about the gas millage. How bad? I currently have a 96 vmax600 xt. Had real bad mpg(6). Did the head gasket mod, added 2 more and as crazy as it sounds, put a fitch fuel catalist in the tank and got 3 more. I sure like the reverse I have. I'd have to put reverse on a srx or find a tripple piped viper with it. Decisions Decisions
thank you all
thank you all
pfund28
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Hmmmm...... don't you guys think the piped Vipers are a little risky? (burndowns) And I disagree about the cost of piping the viper $500++ vs. long travelling the SRX (rear as easy as Maxximums long travel kit $350 or 2 long travel shocks $200?)
there was a post over at Totallyamaha.com about this last year..... buy the original..... making a Viper into a wannabe SRX isn't the way to go IMHO!!!
there was a post over at Totallyamaha.com about this last year..... buy the original..... making a Viper into a wannabe SRX isn't the way to go IMHO!!!
Viper-Rules!
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Viper or SRX
This is a tough choice. The only viper that is close to an SRX is the 04 model since it has DCS. My 2003 Viper doesn't have it, so I wouldn't even think about piping it. I would long travel an srx, unless it was an 04.
I hear the 04 viper rides awesome as well, since it has variable rate shocks in the rear end. My 03 rides nice now, after I had the softer shocks installed under warranty. Now it really soaks up the bumps well. Night and day difference for sure.
As far as gas mileage goes my viper averages 160 miles per tank, on table top groomed trails. Yes there is no secret here in Canada we have plenty of those :-)
This is a tough choice. The only viper that is close to an SRX is the 04 model since it has DCS. My 2003 Viper doesn't have it, so I wouldn't even think about piping it. I would long travel an srx, unless it was an 04.
I hear the 04 viper rides awesome as well, since it has variable rate shocks in the rear end. My 03 rides nice now, after I had the softer shocks installed under warranty. Now it really soaks up the bumps well. Night and day difference for sure.
As far as gas mileage goes my viper averages 160 miles per tank, on table top groomed trails. Yes there is no secret here in Canada we have plenty of those :-)
Junior
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Re: Viper or SRX
you have to disable the DCS when you pipe a viper from what I understand, eliminating that possibility
longtravelled SRX's ride great and pull like a bear. piped vipers pull hard but I find that you're better off longtraveling an SRX 'cuase you have the opportunity to calibrate the shock and spring rates to your weight and riding style while you are longtraveling it, which will make it ride better than the viper in all likelyhood.
the plus I think the SRX makes more power than a piped viper anyways, and the viper already has a wicked timing advance (why they burn down fairly easily) and they have more agressive porting, you can do both of those to an SRX for further gains if you want to.
but I'd try riding the SRX on stock suspension before you go spending that money, maybe I'm just young and have a good back yet, but I don't find it that harsh if it's set-up properly, in ideal conditions an SRX is pretty much untouchable in my opinion, corners better than anything I have ever seen, crazy power from a dead stop to 110+mph.
comparing an SRX to a viper is more like comparing a cadillac to a dodge viper in my opinion, both are high tech, but they are built for different purposes.
Viper-Rules! said:The only viper that is close to an SRX is the 04 model since it has DCS. My 2003 Viper doesn't have it, so I wouldn't even think about piping it.
you have to disable the DCS when you pipe a viper from what I understand, eliminating that possibility
longtravelled SRX's ride great and pull like a bear. piped vipers pull hard but I find that you're better off longtraveling an SRX 'cuase you have the opportunity to calibrate the shock and spring rates to your weight and riding style while you are longtraveling it, which will make it ride better than the viper in all likelyhood.
the plus I think the SRX makes more power than a piped viper anyways, and the viper already has a wicked timing advance (why they burn down fairly easily) and they have more agressive porting, you can do both of those to an SRX for further gains if you want to.
but I'd try riding the SRX on stock suspension before you go spending that money, maybe I'm just young and have a good back yet, but I don't find it that harsh if it's set-up properly, in ideal conditions an SRX is pretty much untouchable in my opinion, corners better than anything I have ever seen, crazy power from a dead stop to 110+mph.
comparing an SRX to a viper is more like comparing a cadillac to a dodge viper in my opinion, both are high tech, but they are built for different purposes.
rcrim
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Has anyone here tried the maximmum performance long travel shocks on an srx ? My stock shocks are worn out and I had been thinking about having them redo them.
bluebullet
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Max perf SRX
rcrim, "Yes" I've run the max perf lontravel upgrade on my 99 700 for 3 seasons and love it. It helps with the ride without killing the wallet and the sled maintains its slot car handleing and no speed loss! The other adv is they really give you easy set up instructions and revalve your shocks for your weight and riding style! Very user friendly and great follow up help! I send my shocks back for recharge every other year. The set up works great for high speed handleing. If you are a slow trail rider I would go to a longer travel (softer Ride) like the VMAX 11.5" system. Just my input, ENJOY AKA Bluebullt
rcrim, "Yes" I've run the max perf lontravel upgrade on my 99 700 for 3 seasons and love it. It helps with the ride without killing the wallet and the sled maintains its slot car handleing and no speed loss! The other adv is they really give you easy set up instructions and revalve your shocks for your weight and riding style! Very user friendly and great follow up help! I send my shocks back for recharge every other year. The set up works great for high speed handleing. If you are a slow trail rider I would go to a longer travel (softer Ride) like the VMAX 11.5" system. Just my input, ENJOY AKA Bluebullt
rcrim
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Did you long travel the front also?
Going with the SRX. Maybe I'll be lucky and find one with the long travel upgrade. Thanks for all the help.
strubmotorsports
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vipers and srx-es
vipers can handle pipes no problem 2 years no issues on mine vipers have a lighter crank and rev faster but the srx is stronger I'm running a bikeman big bore on mine with the light crank no problems yet at high rpm's mid 9's so don't worrie about durability the racepak is a good idea to figure jetting out as for the rest of the engine they have the same upper and lower case halfs stock porting is a little better on the viper but the flow about the same as srx has better compression than viper but a head fixes that for trail cornering the stock srx is great but could use a few inches in the bumps both excellent sleds stock for stock speed srx trail viper.
vipers can handle pipes no problem 2 years no issues on mine vipers have a lighter crank and rev faster but the srx is stronger I'm running a bikeman big bore on mine with the light crank no problems yet at high rpm's mid 9's so don't worrie about durability the racepak is a good idea to figure jetting out as for the rest of the engine they have the same upper and lower case halfs stock porting is a little better on the viper but the flow about the same as srx has better compression than viper but a head fixes that for trail cornering the stock srx is great but could use a few inches in the bumps both excellent sleds stock for stock speed srx trail viper.
blueblooded
Member
Hands down srx!More power,slot car handling,bulletproof engine and when your finished roasting vipers,you can go out and roast some rx1's.
SRX_VIPER
I currently own both sleds. I like them both...they are just different. Stock for stock the SRX feels totally wilder with the definate power advantage and the lesser suspension. I actually think the SRX if more fun of a sled, however, on a long trip the SRX will wear you out with the lack of suspension travel and additional weight. The Viper is a better well rounded trail sled that will be more comfortable when the trails get chewed up. If you looking to modify the Viper with pipes may be the hot setup but I just worry about the reliability.
I definately would change out the skis on the srx (they really suck) and the viper (tolerable).
Leeko
I currently own both sleds. I like them both...they are just different. Stock for stock the SRX feels totally wilder with the definate power advantage and the lesser suspension. I actually think the SRX if more fun of a sled, however, on a long trip the SRX will wear you out with the lack of suspension travel and additional weight. The Viper is a better well rounded trail sled that will be more comfortable when the trails get chewed up. If you looking to modify the Viper with pipes may be the hot setup but I just worry about the reliability.
I definately would change out the skis on the srx (they really suck) and the viper (tolerable).
Leeko
Thanks for the input. Still looking for a srx (NY). Maybe a Viper if it's a deal I can't pass up.
Just to stir the pot a bit more. I'll be jumping from a 96 vmax600xt w/rev & es. Any comments on what to expect, good? bad?
blueblooded
Member
Expect the ride to be about the same.Power wise.Your comparing a chevette to a corvette.(bring an extra pair of undies)