2001SRX=Fast
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Do you think powder coating the pistons are worth it? what kind of gains/losses am i going to see?
mrviper700
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powder coating the pistons??
I know most who coat the pistons with a poly moly coating on the skirts for reduced drag and improved anti scuffing ability, then they use a ceramic heat barrier coating on the domes.
The poly moly makes a differance on the skirts, you can feel the differance when sliding a coated piston in the bore versus a uncoated one. The dome coating is great for high compression engines or use of NOS.
I know most who coat the pistons with a poly moly coating on the skirts for reduced drag and improved anti scuffing ability, then they use a ceramic heat barrier coating on the domes.
The poly moly makes a differance on the skirts, you can feel the differance when sliding a coated piston in the bore versus a uncoated one. The dome coating is great for high compression engines or use of NOS.
S.S.Viper
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Actually I've heard of Chyrogenic Freezing or somthing like that...where you submerse parts into a special liquid bath. And apperently its suppose to do somthing to the molecules(tighten them up) which inturn adds strength, longevity and higher wear... My dads old work used them on welding tips where generally they'd go through 1 or 2 a day...but with the freezing, one tip can go 2 days or somthing like that...Apparantly a guy in Niagara has this setup and business is good...
Unsure if my my post is related to the powder coat subject...but it might have some relevance...
Unsure if my my post is related to the powder coat subject...but it might have some relevance...
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PowerValve-700
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Good reading material and info here: http://swaintech.com/
Chryogenic freezing!!!
Hey, isn't that what they did to Austin Powers!!! I'd never do that to pistons. What if fat bastard came along an drained out their mojo! Your sled would run like crap without any mojo!!!!
Madmatt
Hey, isn't that what they did to Austin Powers!!! I'd never do that to pistons. What if fat bastard came along an drained out their mojo! Your sled would run like crap without any mojo!!!!
Madmatt
redsnake3
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www.fireballcoatings.com
ask for mike he is great to deal with and there product is number one. he has alot of info on the site and will help with any ?'s.
as for the coatings themselves they are supposed to withstand to much higher temps.
everything is explained on his site.
another plus is they are in ontario.
ask for mike he is great to deal with and there product is number one. he has alot of info on the site and will help with any ?'s.
as for the coatings themselves they are supposed to withstand to much higher temps.
everything is explained on his site.
another plus is they are in ontario.
PowerValve-700
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^^^ That's who done my pipes. Great guys, excellent work, fast turn around.
auji700triple
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my pipes were Done and bought At MountainPerformance.com. Their Coatings are Awesome!
ejcamaro
Life Member
Madmatt said:Hey, isn't that what they did to Austin Powers!!! I'd never do that to pistons. What if fat bastard came along an drained out their mojo! Your sled would run like crap without any mojo!!!!
Madmatt
I seen that movie too!! Also they did it in "Demolition Man". It would be cool to freeze your motor parts and thaw them out in like 25 years, you'd still have a motor that never aged.....i think.......
Maybe I was watching the wrong movie.
Seriously I know they cryogenically freeze connecting rods to make them stronger, but thats the extent of my knowledge, the rest is just from movies.
S.S.Viper
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Alright,Alright..I get the point...but i'm not lying...it is an actual business up here...
Apparently a few open wheeled racers out at the local dirt track "Merritville Speedway" have been experimenting with this method... I'm only passing it along...
Now where did I put my "ONE MILLION DOLLARS"...?
Apparently a few open wheeled racers out at the local dirt track "Merritville Speedway" have been experimenting with this method... I'm only passing it along...
Now where did I put my "ONE MILLION DOLLARS"...?
aSRX600guy
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Cryo proccessing is real, I think basicly it cleans up the metal grains that form when metal is cooling. I don't think it would work with SRX pistons because they are made using the powder metal process, but it might.
redsnake3
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PowerValve-700 said:^^^ That's who done my pipes. Great guys, excellent work, fast turn around.
fast??? he got my pipes thursday afternoon and they were done friday. fast aint the word.
toydoc
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Both coatings and cryo process will and can help add extra life and durability to your engine. But it doesn't make them bullet proof. As a owner you need to weigh out the cost of both and what's your intended use of the motor. If your running a piped and ported stock cyl motor at or around stock rpm, I probably wouldn't have anything coated or cryo. If something does go wrong, you can go to the dealer, ebay or bone yard for parts easy. If your running $5000+ motor with aftermarket cyl and piston and turning 10,000+ rpm (price, HTG, crank shop..) I spend the extra $600 and do both.
For more info on cryo email Bob Reed. He can tell you anything you would like to know.
http://www.300below.com/site/deep_cryo.html
For more info on cryo email Bob Reed. He can tell you anything you would like to know.
http://www.300below.com/site/deep_cryo.html
03viperguy
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I am with toydoc, what he says seems reasonable. I am considering redoing the motor in my trail twister and for the price, might have swaintech do the internals for me. just not the easiest parts to find, so it might be worth it for me