Switching to Synthetic at high mileage

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Morley

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Hey everyonw, I have a question about switching to synthetic oil.

I've always run synthetics in all my previous sleds, because thats what they ran ever since new. But this machine I picked up on the weekend has been running Yamalube since new.
If I were to switch to a synthetic now, such as Klotz etc, are there any issues I should be aware of?

I guess this is what I would like answered.


1.) Should I switch to synthetic now, after 16,000kms? If yes, then why?

2.) Should I just continue to use Yamalube? If yes, then why?

3.) If you recommend switching to synthetic now, how can I dump the yamalube thats in the oil resevoir now?


The sled is a 2000 SXR600
Many thanks for your knowledge.

Morley
 
for the most part, oil is oil is oil. the only oil that can't be mixed is the caster bean based stuff that realy isn't used anymore anyways, and was never used in sleds. most people run synthetics to keep powervalves clean, but you don't have em. Better lubrication is better, so switch if you want to. If they synthetic is thinner than the yamalube, you might want to turn down the injector pump, so you not wasting it.
 
Just run the yammielube down low to a safe level then pour
your syn. in, might as well burn up the yammie stuff it's in there
already.

I to am thinking syn. this year but so undecided yet..

do a search on "oil" you'll be reading for hours!!!!! :)
 
Yamalube is already a "semi-synthetic" meaning its a mix, its got lubrication properties of both worlds! Be careful, switching oils can sometimes mean an adjustment of the oil pump settings. One reason not to switch to the more expensive stuff is the 16,000 km's you've got on your sled! We've been users of Yamalube in our trail sleds for many moons. Never had an issue with an engine failure that was related to the type of oil we used. If its not broke dont fix it! Now, if you wanna talk about sythetics for the gearcase that's another story. :wink:
 
Yamalube is fine in that sled and cheaper. A synthetic is good too but look at the miles on that thing and still running strong on Yamalube. Yamalube is decent oil and cheap.
 
I think that you just can't go wrong with synthetic. Synthetic means less friction, and is probably just as important ( or more important ) at high mileage.
 
Has the engine ever been rebuilt? If not just run what you are running and save your money for fuel, I run Castrol snowmobile oil in my Vmax, it does smell a bit more than the shell Ultra advance synthetic I was using, but costs far less and seems to work just fine. AS for a change, if you are going to do it, I recommend pulling the oil resevoir off, rinse it out with clean gas, blow it dry, then reinstall it and bleed the oil lines. It takes a couple hours but gives you a chance to clean the oil tank nicely and the top of the tunnel and stuff you can't normally reach, and Clean looks nice under the hood.
 
You may actually use a little more oil if you use synthetic because it is not as heavy but the difference would be very small. I would keep oil pump setting the same. Like was previous stated run tank down before switching over. Most brands will be 100% compatible with the Yamalube if you choose not to run tank down.
 
OH.. I want to start screaming!!!!! !st of all OILS are completely different... As far as Yamalube is concerned.. I've written these posts about YAMALUBE a DOZEN TIMES.. Yamalube is made by CITGO.. CITGO is owned by the VENEZUELANS to start things off.. Without getting into the POLITICS with VENEZUELA,, lets talk OIL!!!! Synthetic Oil is FAR BETTER than conventional oil.. Weather it being a sled with 10 miles or 10,000... First of all, I would pull off the jugs and really look and measure the cylinders.. Thats a LOT of miles on a set of piston rings!!!! You could buy a compression tester for around $30.00 OR If you have a compressor and want to spend $300.00 you could take OTHERS advise and buy yourself a leakdown tester.. But, lets talk oil........ I use KLOTZ and have been using it SINCE IT WAS BEAN OIL!!!! They made Super techniplate and anso BENOL in the 1970's... I've been around for a while!!!! and YES I've used it in sleds in the early 70's!!!! (bean oil)... The cosistency of KLOTZ snowmobile oil is FINE, you don't have to adjust anything AND you can throw it right on top of YAMALUBE!!!! Without getting into the diester thing, synthetic oils work DRAMATICALLY BETTER than conventional oils.. You may have heard of it being a bad idea with high mileage car engines and YES,,, Its a bad idea... 4 stroke synthetic oil is the consistency of a 10 weitght motor oil.. When You put a 10 weight motor oil where there has been a 10w40 (with a lot of miles).,,, The 10 weight synthetic oil will leak out like a STUCK PIG!!!!!! Thats basically why they tell you to keep away from synthetics on older car engines!!! if you're worried about the price... consider changing your top end a little more often and see how much that costs you!!!! Gary Oles nosboy
 
Hey morley, I just sold my 2000 SXr 600 . Traded it for a new viper.. Maybe you got it?????? It had KLOTZ since it was new.. In fact, as soon as I got it home, I drained that CRAPPY JUNK you guys call YAMALUBE and poured a fresh gallon of KLOTZ in there!!!! I wouldn't use YAMALUBE on my ENEMY's sleds!!!!!! Gary Oles nosboy
 
I love it

Hey Gary.....I love reading your posts because you are obviously passionate about this stuff but I always wonder why you are SHOUTING ALL THE TIME!!!

Madmatt
 
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