Square carbides versus round carbides

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Square runners versus round runners

Sorry, the title should have read "Square runners versus round runners".

Anyways, I went up to my local Yamaha dealership the other day and I asked for some carbides and they said 'square or round runners?'. I said let me think about it. So now I'm here asking you guys about the differences and which one would be better.

Cheers.
 
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I'm thinking Square must be the Shaper Bars and the other regular round bars...Unless he grouped the dual runners as square...lets see what others say...
 
I think the square bars should grip in the corners a little better. Check out the carbides that CB Performance sells. Those may be the next owns I buy.
 
As far as my experience on the ice.....round bars have the chance to roll over on the ski, where the flat top is going to resist that torque while in a corner
 
S.S.Viper said:
I'm thinking Square must be the Shaper Bars and the other regular round bars...Unless he grouped the dual runners as square...lets see what others say...
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Nope, they're not dual carbides, they're single carbides. I was thinking that they would be good when cornering, plus they're alittle thicker than the round runners.

I was just curious if anyone else seen them or tried them before, ...it's the first time I seen square runners (with a single 6 inch long carbide).

Cheers.
 
montynormand said:
As far as my experience on the ice.....round bars have the chance to roll over on the ski, where the flat top is going to resist that torque while in a corner
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Like the man says!

The flat top fits snug against the ski.
 
Our square carbides have several purposes to them. One purpose as Monty already mentioned is for a tighter fir onto the ski preventing it to roll. Another huge reason to a square bar carbide like ours is it cuts the snow much better getting more bite on it when in hardpack snow. Lastly, square carbide is just plain more material and it is much harder to wear through. Square is always the way to go when it comes to carbide. Woody's mainly uses a round bar on theirs simply for the reason of using round bar and makes machining much easier. We offer our own carbide which cuts much harder then any other company out their whether you are an ice racer like monty, or an aggressive trail rider who likes to avoid trees. Our carbide cut hard and keep you in control of your sled.
 
I am not following, Carbide is the part of the runner that SHOULD be in contact with the ground. If you are on ice, this is what is going to steer the sled. Carbide is all the same accelt we run a deeper cutting carbide insert then other companies. Also our carbide insert is much hard and it will hold it's edge much longer. The benefit to a square runner over rounds is it will handle better in the hardpack and powder snow and it has much more bar to wear through. The length of carbide helps you handle when it comes to hard surfaces such as roads or ice. The wear bar is what does the steering when it comes to healthy snow situations. Let me know if you have any other questions. Thanks
 
How do the CB runners/carbides compare to Stud Boy Shaper Bars and Bergstrom triple points? Searching for the best all around carbide for both icy conditions as well as deep snow. Think this might require a new topic but any info is greatly appreciated. You guys are local and I would prefer to support a site sponsor but need the best runner I can get my hands on!
 
There is a hard weld that leads on to a carbide insert that is ground down a bit so it doesn't get hung up anywhere. Next time I am down at the shop, I will flip my sled over that has over 2300 miles on our carbide.
 
Do you have a applacation chart to look up different yamaha sleds and price on your site?, i didn't see with a qwick look, and what about older sleds early,to mid '90's??

**edit** i see the prices are in your vid, are they the same for all years
and makes??
 
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Prices are consistant with all makes except for sleds that require 2 skegs per ski (4 in total). If you let us know the length of carbide you want and the model ski it is for, we will be able to make it up for you. Thanks
 
2ooosrx said:
Prices are consistant with all makes except for sleds that require 2 skegs per ski (4 in total). If you let us know the length of carbide you want and the model ski it is for, we will be able to make it up for you. Thanks
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Thanks for your info!!!!!
 
2ooosrx said:
Next time I am down at the shop, I will flip my sled over that has over 2300 miles on our carbide.
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I'd like to see that, ditto on the thanks!
 
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