8bu00's or 40-10 Heelclickers


I WANT TOO TAKE THIS POST BACK TTT !! SOME OF THE SRX TIMES HERE THAT ARE GETTING POSTED I GOT TOO TELL YA ARE ALITTLE HARD TOO BELIEVE. SHURE ALLAN CAN DO IT BUT THROW HEEL CLICKERS IN AND RUN 5.4,s ? !! !! 3:16 (tony)
 
I dont see anywhere that it says throw in h/c's and youll go that fast, what I read is it takes ALOT more parts and work to do it!!, including a speed track! I am sorry to tell you, you cant run much faster in stock class then high 5.6's -5.7's with 8bu weights, even with good chassis set up. I know you love em and all and they do work GREAT for backyard racing but you cant compare the clamping forces of them against the h/c. The h/c is still the fastest drag race weight in a srx, the super tip is the same weight without the heel. Now to run pro times you need alot of set up just like I posted, speed track, lots and lots of suspension work(this is where 90 percent of guys fall very short), chaincase set up including exact line up of case to chassis,gear alignment with special washers, pod filters, spot on jetting,larger wheels on skkid, shaved hyfax, marginal wheels on curve, differnt belt, center to center settings and its not easy but its been done alot and by more people then just Allen.
 
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8bu is a nice economical weight. The heel clickers or super tips allow more fine tuning and you can get a more aggressive holeshot with them. Test, test, test.
 
I thought of something else that may help some of you guys, something for you to look at and think about. The rear suspension set up has more time cutting potential then does the motor, alot more time can be cut off your et by having your srx leave properly, the holeshot and (60ft time) has more to do with winning then more hp in the motor does. Have you ever seen smaller cc sleds absolutely destroy larger cc selds in a 500ft drag race?? why?/ because its all about set up, and that takes testing,testing,testing!! Almost everyone cranks up the front shock tension then smashes the limiter straps down and then just opens up the rear transfer gap on top and runs it!! What you end up with is a rocking chair effect, with the sled sitting on level surface youll see a big gap under the rear idler wheels to the ground surface about 2-4 inchs depending on how far you went with your settings, and what happens as soon as you gas the sled is it rocks back on the wheels from the gap(because there is no resistance there and power takes the path of least resistance and this in turn unloads the the front of the track, you go slower and spin! think outside the box on how to correct this.
 
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DON, I REALLY ADMIRE ALOT OF YOUR POSTS. YOU REALLY HAVE YOUR SHIT TOGETHER. BUT I DISAGREE !!!. FIRST, IF IT WAS AS EASY AS YOU JUST DECRIBE, TELL ME WHERE ARE THE SRX,s. THE F-7 PRO AND TRAIL STOCK HANDS IT TOO THEM. I GOT A GREAT RUNNING 2000 SRX WITH THE 8BU SET-UP. I CAN BARELY BEAT THE FAIR F-7,s LET ALONE THE RACE ECU ONES. I HAVE HAD TOO WORK MY SKID BECAUSE OF MY WEIGHT. SO LET ME ASK YOU THIS. TAKE A EVERYDAY SRX, RUN YOUR HEEL CLICKER SETUP. EQUAL DRIVERS, EQUAL GEARING, NOT ISR SLEDS, AGAINST MY 8BU SET-UP, WHO WINS. UNSTAND MY POINT, MYSELF AND OTHERS ARE ASKING THE 8BU-00 SET-UP VS THE CLICKERS. NOT ISR TIMES VS TRAIL TIMES. I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU OR ALLAN TOO SEND ME A EXACT CLICKER SYSTEM, I,LL TEST IT AGAINST MY 8BU WITH GPS AND TIMERS. IF ITS HANDS DOWN FASTER, I,LL SEND YA A CHECK. SEE MY POINT, I KNOW MY SRX AIN,T GOING 5.4,s MAYBE LOW 5.8,s. THIS IS NOT A ISR SLED. LETS SEE IF THESE MAKE MY SRX FASTER. !! 3:16 (tony)
 
I ALSO WILL GUARNTEE YOU JETTING, GEARING, TRACITION WILL BE DEAD ON. DON AGAIN REAL WORLD SLED VS SLED. NOT ISR STUFF. JUST GOOD BASIS SET-UP. THAT MOST DO. 3:16 (tony)
 
h/c's are faster Tony!! I dont really think I made it sound too easy did I? it takes ALOT of tuning to go 5.4-5.5 on a srx, but its been done quite a few times by differnt racers. Justin Mills was even in the 5.3's If I recall.The biggest reason the srx's are not racing in 700 class anymore is weight simply, the f7 gets a weight break off the top for being a twin and the srx has too ADD even more weight to it, and the sleds are already almost 80lbs differance just the way they came from the factory, its like riding 2 people on a srx and a light girl on a f7, and they both started off at 140hp!

On another note unless a f7 has a race ecu and professional set up, a backyard srx set up will smoke em still, its the big money ones you cant beat!

Like we agree on the 8bu weight set up is great for low budget backyard events, but they are not fastest set up, they are good, but not the only thing that works!

I agree with you as to the probabilty of your times, I was not saying by using a set of H/c's alone youd go 5.4-5.5, thats a isr set up thats why I put it in the second paragragh. You can how ever go mid to high 5.6's to 5.7's with a 8bu set up, I have done it and won alot with it! thats fast enuff for trail stock win!!

Now I aint pickin on ya... but I watched the jacoby's video and I personally think ya need some more rear skid work, theres some more time to cut off your ET with it, I see your a fairly large sized guy so thats a bit harder to do to. Dont take it the wrong way now!!
 
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DON, NOTHING TOO PICK ON ME ABOUT, GLAD YOU SAW THAT VIDEO, THAT WAS NOT MY BEST DAY, SHURE WE ALL BEEN THERE. NOW YA I AM BIG , 235 POUNDS, NOT GETTING PERSONAL, WHAT YOU WEIGH. PROBLEY WHY YOUR SEEING THE NUMBER WITH 8BU-00!! ALSO I CAN TELL YA JUSTIN MILLS NEVER RAN 5.4/5.5,s !!! THAT SLED WAS A 5.6 AT BEST. I TALKED MANY TIMES TO THOSE GUYS AND TRYED TOO BUY THAT SLED. THEY SOLD THAT SLED WHEN THE F-7 CAME OUT. AND STARTED RACING THE CAT . THEIR SRX SHOWED UP AT BACK YARD EVENTS. AGAIN YOU REALLY DID NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION. YOUR THROWING PRO NAMES OUT THERE LIKE JUSTIN MILLS. 8BU-00 WEIGHTS VS HEEL CLICKERS IN THE REAL WORLD. DON,, NOT LOOKING FOR A DISAGREEMENT WITH YOU, I WANT TOO KNOW IF YOU HAVE A FASTER SET-UP IN THE REAL WORLD. IF YA DO, SEND IT TOO ME. 3:16 (tony)
 
I will give ya guys another little tip or two for racing, it knocks some time off, take and get some solid steel rod about 5/16" and make some new ski runners, just weld bolts to the steel rod and remove your larger carbide runners. This reduces the topend drag after the skis touch the ground. Running none at all is a little faster yet, but its too hard to control and doesnt turn hardly at all at the end of the track, if you need to move to one side of your lane while racing when you have no runners you will have to lean way off the side, and this ruins the run time wise also.

Spend time with your sled up on a jackstand and reduce the drag it takes to roll the track, this will be a big gain for you, larger wheels in skid, hyfax either off or if rules say you need it, put it on a table saw and cut them down to 1/16-1/8" thick total lenght, 7.5" rear wheels and marginal wheels at curve. 1-3 axles of the wahls grass drag wheels added in center of skid helps keep more pressure on the picks over more surface area giving you better traction.

chain tension in chaincase is another one, you dont want a taunt tight chain tension, its drags power away. Try to also keep the chain as straight as possible around the sides from sprocket to sprocket with your gearing combo, I like to keep at least a 20 tooth up top, when you use a 18-19 tooth top its harder to turn the chain around the bend. Like I said, put the sled up on a stand and look for ways to reduce parasatic drag it pays off big time in racing!!
 
Tony, I weigh 170-180lb depends on time of year and how much eating I have been doing...LOL!!

your right, your gonna have a little harder time with more weight, but maybe if you could get it to leave a little flatter and straighter you could cut some time off, I imagine it wants to just wheelie as with you on the rear it wants to squat more, you might want to try having hardly any gap up top on the rods and try it, shim the bottom of the trnsferrods thicker to pull the rear of the skid down, this helps flatten it out front to back also. Its against all logic but what I have found that if you take away the trnasfer gap and apply other adjust ments thru the skid the sled will leave flatter ,faster and dead level straight.

pm me and maybe we can try some tricks out for ya, I love nothin better then to wipe up them pesky f7's

p.s., justin and andy sell both made some fast runs, I never said they ran pass after pass at those times, But I have witnessed runs by both of them that were that fast. greg catrobone for 1 year didnt do bad on a srx either, then he leaped on the xc600 and did even better. this was at marilla,and van buren
 
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DON, COME ON !!!!!!!!!!!!! EVERYTHING YOU JUST POSTED IS ISR PREP !!! WHY WON,T YOU ANSWER ME.
2000 SRX - 132 MAINS - 20/40 GEARING- 8BU WEIGHT SET-UP
2001 SRX- 132 MAINS- 20/40 GEARING - HEEL CLICKER- SET-UP
WHO WINS. !! 3:16 (tony)
 
oh I see what your asking, well if your traction is good h/c's all the way!!!

I ran all that stuff except the wahl wheels, we were not allowed in our race assoc here in Ohio, all that stuff will make your sled faster Tony
 
YOU OR ALLAN HAVE A BOLT IN HEEL CLICKER SET-UP HANDY FOR A 700 SRX. IF ITS FASTER THAN MY 8BU, I,LL BUY IT. THANKS, THATS WHAT I WAS ASKING YA . 3:16 (tony)
 
AND I DID,NT SEE YOUR P.S. !! JUSTIN MILLS ANDY SELL, AND GREG CATABONE, ALL DOMINATED ON THE SRX UP TO THE 2003 SEASON. THATS WHEN A CERTAIN CAT CAME ON THE SCENE. DON, I GO TOO JUST AS MANY GRASS DRAGS AS YOU lol !!!!!!!!!!! 3:16 (tony)
 
Tony, do you have a set of h/c's to use??

I can give ya set up, but your gonna have to fine tune/test it, because of our weight differances and the way I set up skid and stuff, you need lots of traction 192 minimum to hook it up. Pm me for it.

last time I saw greg on a srx was around 2000-01, he got a polaris xc600 and did awesome with it for bender, that little 600 was fast and picture perfect leave EVERYTIME!!! I watched him go a 5.6 or 5.7 something at the Erie cup on it!!! thats a mean little 600 twin ....LOL

I will be on later tonight, gotta go out and get some more work done on guys engines, talk to ya later.
 
Tony, no one is going to have a setup that you can just bolt in and go faster with! We can give you a starting point, but you will have to fine tune it to your conditions, rider weight, and particular sled. There is nothing done to my "pro" SRX that you can't do to your backyard sled. No funky CDI's, no timing keys, no nothing! Just test, test, test! I have 6 years on this same 2001 combination always fine tuning! Picked the sled up in September of 2000 took it to Hay Days with 4 days prep time and took 2nd, been working on it ever since! Test, test, test.
 
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