I was up at our cabin last weekend in Idaho and the snow was pretty much gone. Sad day. I hiked up the forest service road behind the house and found that the snow was only about half a mile up. I was very tempted, unfortunately the lower part of the road is real bad, deep ruts, rocks and greasy mud. But... we have a small trail through the woods that meets up with the upper road, it climbs a short steep hill but after that its pretty smooth. If I had my phazer I probably woul have gone for it. Our other sleds have deep paddle tracks and I didnt want to risk it. How far would you go on dirt, mud and a few rocks to get to the snow?