Can you get more then 6 grams on the tip of HC's

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6 grams seems the maximum you can put on the tip of the HC's.What if you remove a couple of 1 g washers and then put a nut on the opposite end.Would that work at all? What kind of nut would you use so that it doesn't come off.Stainless steel nut for sure.Just asking to see what you think,is it a way to get more tip weight.
 

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heel weight also brings down the top rpm,s if your a little high down low too
Get a helix with a higher finish angle
divy up the weight between the mid & tip. When I can,t add enuff in the tip I add some to the mid with no loss in performance.
 
very interesting Turk,so could add to the mid hole a bit.Also noticed that the washers hit the rollers on the heel end.Was told I would have to grind some of the washers down to be smooth and flush with the weight itself.The heel end inside where it meets the roller is concave and the washers just stick a little past the end.Grinding them down will help in not damaging the roller Got a 50/38 Dalton Helix already to use on this setup.Just getting to a point where I will be setting things up slowly for the next season.Still need snow to test of course.
 
i've got 8.3 grams in the tip. went to lowe's & bought steel nuts. works fine. watch the side clearance of the spyder!

bob
 
How exactly did you set it up bufalobob?What does the nut weigh in grams.Is it stainless steel the nut and how did you get it to stay on the threads..ie)lockwashers and blue loctite.So you have a couple washers less on the other end of the bolt to,to get more exposed thread on the opposite end.
 
blue you won't be able to pull the weight buffalo has,lol
He has a 190hp srx
 
was playing around with the HC weights last nite.Put 5.3 g in the heel.This is good for approx. 4300 engagement according to the instructions.Put 3.3 g in middle hole and in the tip for a total of 6.6 grams.If I would want to be heavier on tip,could put 4 g bolt in there for a grand total of 7.3 g.Of course I cannot try it out for a lack of snow these days...lol.Will not know anything until snow comes around again,but am anxious to try the heel clicker's out.I guess I'll have to grind some of the area on the movable sheave where the heel will contact when the weight is fully engaged.Also will have to grind the washers on the heel so that they do not screw up the 15.6 rollers.Would it be recommended maybe to go to a smaller roller so I won't have to grind them washers.I know the weight is designed to work with 15.6 and no larger roller,but also a smaller roller could be used,but what advantage would that create?
 

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blue:

do you have a gram scale? if not than go to harbour freight tools & get one -$14 on sale & just as accurate as an expensive ohaus.
no i did not use stainless, just plated cheapies. don't need locktite. put the bolt head on the flat side & washers & nut on recessed side. the lip on the weight will lock the nut on. or you could get fancy & buy tungsten nuts & bolts - costly!
watch your side clearances & make corrections with a grinder.
i'm @ 70 grams & may need more!

bob
 
bluemonster1 said:
was playing around with the HC weights last nite.Put 5.3 g in the heel.This is good for approx. 4300 engagement according to the instructions.Put 3.3 g in middle hole and in the tip for a total of 6.6 grams.If I would want to be heavier on tip,could put 4 g bolt in there for a grand total of 7.3 g.Of course I cannot try it out for a lack of snow these days...lol.Will not know anything until snow comes around again,but am anxious to try the heel clicker's out.I guess I'll have to grind some of the area on the movable sheave where the heel will contact when the weight is fully engaged.Also will have to grind the washers on the heel so that they do not screw up the 15.6 rollers.Would it be recommended maybe to go to a smaller roller so I won't have to grind them washers.I know the weight is designed to work with 15.6 and no larger roller,but also a smaller roller could be used,but what advantage would that create?

When I load up the heel, I stack a bunch of small washers on first, then add large washers with the long bolt. No need to be grinding on anything.
 
I did the same thing as bufalo bob.I had 69 grams in my stocker when I use to run it on grass but that was set up for drags only.
 
that's fine if you drag on grass.I am a snow type of a guy.Anyways when you add washers to the heel,did you not notice the washers will slightly touch the rollers.I was told to grind some off these washers.Is this true and what have you guys done?Just concerned that I may get the rollers chewed up,which would not be good.
 
mine never touched I had mine nothed for engaement and different slit collars in the primary.
 
blue:

my sled is a trail sled also. i have had to do some lite grinding on the clutches for clearance purposes. give it what it wants.

bob
 
To answer your question......

Yes, I have had to file a little bit off the first few washers on the heel. Not all 6 of them, just the ones closest to the weight itself....they are the only ones that contacted the roller. Another thing to try is when the clutch is all back together, just loosten the heel bolt a little and this will push the washers away from the roller as much as possible. (there is some play there). Then tighten the bolt back up. After that, if you still need to file a few of the washers contacting the roller then go ahead and do it. I just used a little hand file. You won't need to take off much and those washers are soft anyway.

Madmatt
 
Thanks a million there MadMatt,very informative info there.That is why I love this site.Fellow Yamaha members helping other members.I understand what you are saying there about loosening the bolt and seeing if the washers will move abit over,otherwise file a tad off.GREAT.....Thanks.
 


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