ExpertXViper
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Is there any advantage over one from the other? If so please feel free to share any info. Thanks
Brett
Brett
yamaholic22
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Round are better for just installing them and never thinking about them again, but if you are meticulous about your sled the squares are much better (and doubles are better yet) because they support the stud much better. The reason i say you have to be meticulous about your sled to see the benefits is because you need to keep the square backers aligned. If they turned side ways (or diagonal to the direction of rotation of the track) then they dont have much support and the corners of the backer can poke through the track causing a rip-out. If you stay on top of them when they are new and torque them properly right off the bat and retorque after you get a few miles on it they pretty much take a "set" and you just have to check them every so often to make sure they are still aligned. Use double backers and you never have to worry about them turning, and if one stud hits a snag it has twice the support to avoid a pull through. Bent studs are WAY better than pull throughs, so support is everything!
pro116
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If you are speed running only use round.They don't have as much support and allow the stud to flex more on the track the square backer holds the stud straighter under load.
ExpertXViper
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Itll be about 50/50 for trail and lake running, I dont plan on doing any speed runs. So Im just gunna with my original choice which was the square backers. Thanks for the great feedback guys, it really helped out on my final decsion.
yamaholic22
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No problem sir
richierich
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square is way to go=more support
Junior
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I prefer the square ones. Particularly the angled square ones.
yamaholic22
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Junior said:I prefer the square ones. Particularly the angled square ones.
I agree, and to further carry my point. The angle double square backers are even BETTER because you get added stability and rigidity if place them against a lug so they have a reaction arm to push against. lol
Junior
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yessir, you're 100% correct.
opsled
Active member
I use toggle bolts with fender washers from the harware store cuz I like the clicking sound I get with them. Sounds like a hi performance version of my banana bike I had when I was a kid with a playing card pinned in the spokes.
Seriously these guys are right on the square, doubled and angle type backers. They do have more surface area and should give more support but if they get turned they can really tare up a track. I'm lazy and don't like to worry or even think about about turned backers or stud problems so I use only Woody's Gold carbide studs with their large aluminum round backers for trail riding. I have NEVER had ANY problems with them and they last along time. Do yourself a favor though and stay away from steel or plastic backers. Steel ones rust up right away and although alot of guys swear by plastic backers I see broken ones laying on the trails and lakes ALL the time. Loose one backer on a day of riding and you will probably have a hole in your track that will never hold a stud again before you even notice it.
My 2 cents, Phil (opsled)
Seriously these guys are right on the square, doubled and angle type backers. They do have more surface area and should give more support but if they get turned they can really tare up a track. I'm lazy and don't like to worry or even think about about turned backers or stud problems so I use only Woody's Gold carbide studs with their large aluminum round backers for trail riding. I have NEVER had ANY problems with them and they last along time. Do yourself a favor though and stay away from steel or plastic backers. Steel ones rust up right away and although alot of guys swear by plastic backers I see broken ones laying on the trails and lakes ALL the time. Loose one backer on a day of riding and you will probably have a hole in your track that will never hold a stud again before you even notice it.
My 2 cents, Phil (opsled)
Junior
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for racing I use plastic backers, and ya they break and need to be checked over regularly. Not exactly condusive to trail riding.