JeepTherapy
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I have read quite a bit about the whole SRX CDI in a Viper with pipes setup. I am running the Bender pipes. I would like to set the sled up and tune it first with the Viper CDI and run it for a while. After I am satisfied with the set up with the Viper CDI I would like to try the SRX CDI and see what kind of differences it makes.
From what I have read there is some controversy as to whether or not the SRX CDI would be an improvement over the Viper CDI. The way I see it at this point the only way to find out is to try it.
What I need is the cable pin outs for the two CDI's. Are the two boxes pin compatible? Would I have to make my own connector? Does the 2002 SRX CDI require the same resistor for the temp connection? Is the DCS going to be compatible? Any information would sure be appreciated.
Lastly, where does a guy find a used reasonably priced CDI? Aside from the obvious want add on here.
From what I have read there is some controversy as to whether or not the SRX CDI would be an improvement over the Viper CDI. The way I see it at this point the only way to find out is to try it.
What I need is the cable pin outs for the two CDI's. Are the two boxes pin compatible? Would I have to make my own connector? Does the 2002 SRX CDI require the same resistor for the temp connection? Is the DCS going to be compatible? Any information would sure be appreciated.
Lastly, where does a guy find a used reasonably priced CDI? Aside from the obvious want add on here.
Here's xome reading:
viper timing/ srx timing
Some of the information below is correct, but the 01 srx box is what you use for a 02/03 viper swap, and the 02 srx box has dcs and wont work, that is unless you have a 04 viper.
The viper has MORE compression then a srx, only the pto cylinder has less, this was only done so you could jet the mains straight across the board, they(yamaha) thought that was a big deal for the consumer.
The reason piped vipers get such crappy mileage is due to the pipe design of the aftermarket. It is the pipe design which dictates how much fuel is needed as the pulse returned to the cylinder is of a differnt frequency then that of a srx, its a completely differnt length headpipe and overall length. A typical srx uses a 40-42.5 pilot, you need a minimum of a 47.5 pilot in any aftermarket viper pipe and the needles usually need to be raised, this is where all your gas mileage goes, you are 80-90 percent of the time trail riding on the low and mid range circuit, its not the mains which drink all the fuel. If you stick a cloth tape measure on a srx pipe from the piston side of the exh port till the silencer youll get one measurment, and when you do any typical viper pipe youll get a much shorter measurement, thats because a viper pipe needs to be a shorter length to rev at a higher rpm, a long pipe builds torq, and is a lower rpm pipe, the short ones builds higher rpm h/p, it can also build torq to a extent but it depends on the rear cone and stinger diameter, pipe design is another conversation all together. The viper exh port alone is only half as long as a stock srx is. The timing in a viper was needed to get the engine/single pipe combo to perform, when you add triple pipes you free up alot of power and advanced timing is not needed as much , however, more timing gets you better accelaration, and builds torq at a faster rate then retarded timing does, BUT, retarded timing pulls better topend then advanced does. Advanced timing puts more heat in the piston crown and beginning of the pipe, retarded timing puts more heat out in the pipe. This is also PART of the reason you need more fuel in the low/mid range circuit, to help cool the piston crown.
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http://www.totallyamaha.net/forums/showthread.php?t=27680&page=2&pp=10&highlight=srx+cdi+viper
viper timing/ srx timing
Some of the information below is correct, but the 01 srx box is what you use for a 02/03 viper swap, and the 02 srx box has dcs and wont work, that is unless you have a 04 viper.
The viper has MORE compression then a srx, only the pto cylinder has less, this was only done so you could jet the mains straight across the board, they(yamaha) thought that was a big deal for the consumer.
The reason piped vipers get such crappy mileage is due to the pipe design of the aftermarket. It is the pipe design which dictates how much fuel is needed as the pulse returned to the cylinder is of a differnt frequency then that of a srx, its a completely differnt length headpipe and overall length. A typical srx uses a 40-42.5 pilot, you need a minimum of a 47.5 pilot in any aftermarket viper pipe and the needles usually need to be raised, this is where all your gas mileage goes, you are 80-90 percent of the time trail riding on the low and mid range circuit, its not the mains which drink all the fuel. If you stick a cloth tape measure on a srx pipe from the piston side of the exh port till the silencer youll get one measurment, and when you do any typical viper pipe youll get a much shorter measurement, thats because a viper pipe needs to be a shorter length to rev at a higher rpm, a long pipe builds torq, and is a lower rpm pipe, the short ones builds higher rpm h/p, it can also build torq to a extent but it depends on the rear cone and stinger diameter, pipe design is another conversation all together. The viper exh port alone is only half as long as a stock srx is. The timing in a viper was needed to get the engine/single pipe combo to perform, when you add triple pipes you free up alot of power and advanced timing is not needed as much , however, more timing gets you better accelaration, and builds torq at a faster rate then retarded timing does, BUT, retarded timing pulls better topend then advanced does. Advanced timing puts more heat in the piston crown and beginning of the pipe, retarded timing puts more heat out in the pipe. This is also PART of the reason you need more fuel in the low/mid range circuit, to help cool the piston crown.
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And more here.
http://www.totallyamaha.net/forums/showthread.php?t=27680&page=2&pp=10&highlight=srx+cdi+viper
JeepTherapy
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Yeah, have already read both of those posts. Lots of info on the 01 SRX box to the 02/03 Viper, very little on the 02 into the 04 with the DCS.
Actually it was the second post that lead to my choice of the word controversy. I really respect Dons opinion. But I also liked the sounds of the retarded timing compared to the Viper timing.
But thanks for the response.
Actually it was the second post that lead to my choice of the word controversy. I really respect Dons opinion. But I also liked the sounds of the retarded timing compared to the Viper timing.
But thanks for the response.
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