Putting Oil in Gas First Time Out ??

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Some guys told me that you should always mix some oil in with your gas when starting a 2stroke sled at the beginning of the season just incase the oil pump or something oil related is not working...do others do this and if so how much oil do you put in??Thanks Diceman

ps--Kitchener area calling for a possibility of 20 to 30 cm of snow over next 2 days...yesssssssssss
 

You can if you want it's your sled, but no it's not needed, never heard of that one, you know it's working Dice they smoke like hell when first started.
 
daman said:
You can if you want it's your sled, but no it's not needed, never heard of that one, you know it's working Dice they smoke like hell when first started.
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Well since I fog my sled it will smoke like hell anyways....he said just a good preventitive thing to do incase there is a oil problem..so you disagree eh!!! you are my mechanic..lol...Diceman
 
daman said:
lol..

don't say that,we'll find dice out in the garage dumping a gal. in the gas tank. lol lol!!!!!
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Look out your window , you can see the smoke ..all good boys..will drink beer instaed of worrying oil problems...
 
There would be no harm in doing it if you want, but it would be pretty unusual to have something happen to the oil pump while the sled is not being used. If it worked when you shut the sled off it will normally work when you start it up again in the fall. Not a bad idea to look for any leaks and check the oil and gas hoses to see that they are okay.
 
We use to tell people to do that on there boats since the old syle oil pumps were in the oil tank in the bottom of the boats and they were known for going out. Johnson's were the big problem.
 
I would not, cause your creating a lean condition, & with the fogging oil still in there your asking for trouble...keep an eye on your plugs if they are turning white, you have to much heat in them cylinder...be careful...cheers
 
I try to start my sled several times through the summer to keep it losened up and get some lube in there. I was not able to do that for some time I usually pull the plugs and put an oz or so in each cylinder and pull it over slowly. (Pull to fast and it'll get you in the eye). This gets oil on the rings and walls for the start. I also use old plugs until I've burned up some of the crap and any access oil. I never heard of oil causing lean or too hot condition. Cooler, more lub yes is not bad only on the plugs if it does not fire right away fowling them. Another trick it to pour a bit or Oil/Gas mix into the cylinder to get it firing on fresh gas. This can save a lot of pulling.

Anyway, Start you engines. I had to go north to Gravenhurst (not sleding, Funeral). Lots of snow and icey roads yesterday. I swooped by my cottage in Haliburton to pickup something I forgot. About two feet of snow and well snowed out right now. Winter is early.
 
tripplec said:
I try to start my sled several times through the summer to keep it losened up and get some lube in there.
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Have you ever thought about using fogging oil? starting them like that could do more damage then good, fogging a motor gives everything a nice coating of oil that will keep things lubed and rust free over the summer months.

plus you don't have to take the time of starting them all.

every thing of mine always gets a good bath of fogging oil..
 
Yes & No Never found it necessary

daman said:
Have you ever thought about using fogging oil? starting them like that could do more damage then good, fogging a motor gives everything a nice coating of oil that will keep things lubed and rust free over the summer months.

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Well I heard of the fogging and stablizers. I was not aware it was a oiling, just purging air out of the engine of such. I have run my sled in the spring with a heavy does of oil in a small amount of gas (gallon or so). Keeping it well reved or it would stall. It smokes so much you can hardly breath in the garage with the doors open and the air is BLUE. Then I have just shut it off after about five minutes of that. (That is how I fog when I have done it).

Just getting a Venture now but my old 1980 Mirage II never see any of that high tech fogger etc and keeps on running. Still run near as fast as it did new. It has signs of age, yeah, from tangling with a tree or two (even small trees don't move or fold on impact), rolled a few time taking a few turns too fast, flipped it once trying to avoid two yahoos blocking a trail, both lanes right around a turn (missed them), half froze in foot and half slush. But I can always get it going and never stranded on that sled.
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tripplec said:
I try to start my sled several times through the summer to keep it losened up and get some lube in there. I was not able to do that for some time I usually pull the plugs and put an oz or so in each cylinder and pull it over slowly. (Pull to fast and it'll get you in the eye). This gets oil on the rings and walls for the start. I also use old plugs until I've burned up some of the crap and any access oil. I never heard of oil causing lean or too hot condition. Cooler, more lub yes is not bad only on the plugs if it does not fire right away fowling them. Another trick it to pour a bit or Oil/Gas mix into the cylinder to get it firing on fresh gas. This can save a lot of pulling.

Anyway, Start you engines. I had to go north to Gravenhurst (not sleding, Funeral). Lots of snow and icey roads yesterday. I swooped by my cottage in Haliburton to pickup something I forgot. About two feet of snow and well snowed out right now. Winter is early.
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mixing your oil WILL cause it to be a leaner mixture because you are essentially just putting more oil in the mixture which in turn ensures that there is less fuel in the mixture. a lean condition is caused due to there not being enough FUEL in the mixture to cool the piston enough.
 
tripplec said:
Well I heard of the fogging and stablizers. I was not aware it was a oiling, just purging air out of the engine of such.
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I strongly recommend you try it out(fogging oil,stabil)does a great
job of protecting your internals on your engine.

fogging oil's have additives to prevent rust formation
from happening, it's "Designed"..... to protect stored engines.

and a little goes a long way 1oz.(stabil) treats 2.5 gals.
 
Fogg Me ...

daman said:
I strongly recommend you try it out(fogging oil,stabil)does a great
job of protecting your internals on your engine.

fogging oil's have additives to prevent rust formation
from happening, it's "Designed"..... to protect stored engines.

and a little goes a long way 1oz.(stabil) treats 2.5 gals.
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Ok, I'll try it on my Venture 600 when I get it from being service at the end of this season. There is a lot more on this sled to cleanup etc if a tear down is required.
 
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