I am over-reving with new clutching!!!

[srx4life]

Hi guys i am over-reving with the set up www primary spring using stock weights with the added 4.5g rivet. My secondary is running the stock red spring with a 50/44 hauck helix.. What can i do to run around 8400-8500 rpm. its now hitting 9000rpm which i beleive is too much. correct me if i am wrong.

 

[srx4life]

I forgot to mebtion it is a 2001 srx 700 with a 1 1/4 ripsaw

 

[mopar1rules]

how much wrap on the secondary spring? what weights are you running?

 

[YAMMIEGOD3:16]

HAVE ANY OTHER HELIX,s YOU CAN TRY WITH ALITTLE LESS FINISH. 3:16 (yammie tony)

 

[srx4life]

I am running 60 wrap on secondary with the stock 8dn's weights. Will increasing the wrap lower or raise rpm's?

 

[YAMMIEGOD3:16]

YOUR AT THE END OF PLAYING WITH SECONDARY TENSION AT 60 TWIST AND STILL OVER REVING. YOU INCRESE YOUR WRAP PROBLEM WILL GET WORSE. 3:16 (yammie tony)

 

[mopar1rules]

you said you have 8dn weights.....which ones....8dn-00, 8dn-10, or 8dn-20? you should have 8dn-20's. not sure on what rivets to be using.

 

[9801srx]

in my 98 i'am running 8dn-20 with 4.5 inner 5.5 outer (4.5 gram rivit with a 1 gram washer) 51/43 yami helix ,green spring at 60 ,primary www. revs 8300 start to 8500 finish.5.5 in the tip might help.

 

[srx4life]

After rerading up on this it seems that 9801 srx is correct on his suggestion, it sounds like my tip weight needs to be heavier to drop the max rpm

 

[kingtigg]

9801srx: I've got almost the same setup...but am over-revving with 4.5g in both holes. I think i need to do the same as you did with 5.5g in the tips.

However, i find it odd that you and I seem to be the only people that cannot run the correct RPMS with 4.5g in both holes!
...ESPECIALLY seeing as this setup seems to have been around for a long time....

...weird....

 

[9801srx]

if you try the 1g washer make sure none of the washer is above the roller surface of the weight .i had to file a very small bit off the washer to make it level with the weight surface.

 

[kingtigg]

great advice, thanks!

 

[bluemonster1]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

I have been over-reving also using the 51/43 helix.Have 8DN-20's with 5.5 in both holes,w-w-w primary,4000 engagement,red spring at 70 and was getting 8800-8900 wot..Switched to y-w-y primary,engagment dropped to about 3500.red spring at 60 and wot was 8700.Then went to straight 47 helix an d wot was 8400.Will now try w-w-w primary again,still 5.5 in both holes,green spring at 60 with the 51/43 helix and see the outcome.

 

[bluemonster1]

I have primary 8DN-20's with 4.5 in heel and 5.4 in tip.Running stock SRX spring(y-w-y) with 51/43 helix with green wrapped at 70.Engages about 3500-3700 and runs to about 8200-8300 and climbs to 8700 at WOT.So I will either wrap green to 60 or put red in at 70 to start.Gotto drop my top rpm's some.

 

[Turk]

w-w-w & y-w-y should have the exact same engagement. preload is same(controls engagement) but total force is higher on the y-w-y(controls shift rpm,s) the outer colour tells you total force. the inner colour tells you pre-load.

 

[yammieguy]

HAVE ANY OTHER HELIX,s YOU CAN TRY WITH ALITTLE LESS FINISH. 3:16 (yammie tony)

Would less finish not create more rpms due to less resistance on the topend?

 

[Turk]

Less finish = lower rpm,s from slower upshift. higher finish = more rpm,s from quicker upshift.

 

[modsrx]

hey turk do u talk about helix ??? maybe i did a mystake but the finish angle the smaller it is the more it will make u ovverave at top end cause the sled doesnt shift fast enough ????if not i totally crewed lolll

 

[Turk]

smaller angle = slower upshift = more rpm,s.

 

[modsrx]

ok now i'm really **** up i hope the summer is coming pretty soon cause my brain will go caboummm lollll.... i know it shift slower but didnt know about the lower rpm ..i was sure because it shift slower more tip weight will be needed to adjust the overrave