Tripp700
New member
Went to buy plugs for my 97Vmax SX, all sold out of BR9ES NGKR plugs. Crossed over to Champion 818RN2C. Has anyone else had to do this in a pinch?
daman
New member
I would stick with NGK,check your local auto parts stores,they all should
carry them this time of year...
carry them this time of year...
sandmanmike1
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I run NGK in everything i own. When I bought my sled previous owner ran Champions and there was about 9 fouled plugs in the rear compartant and he told me it will foul plugs if you let it set a little. Changed over to NGK BR9ES and have had to change 2 in 6 years. Some gas stations close to the trails may have some NGK
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justaviper
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My experiance a champion plug will not recover if floaded or fouled. An NGK usually will enough to get it running. You can use them in a pinch but i wouldn't leave them in there.
Tripp700
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Thanks guys. Kinda what I thought but it never hurts to check.
alswagg
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Their are two versions of the BR9ES. one with the solid terminal and one with the screw on. Check before you buy, the solid is more expensive but last's longer. I have had many sleds in the shop with the cheap style and the teminal stuck in the boot cap. The solid is the OEM replacement.
daman
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you are right the part number is 4677,stick with tho'salswagg said:Their are two versions of the BR9ES. one with the solid terminal and one with the screw on. Check before you buy, the solid is more expensive but last's longer. I have had many sleds in the shop with the cheap style and the teminal stuck in the boot cap. The solid is the OEM replacement.
Undertaker13
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No contest NGK!! nothing champion about a chump plug!!
horkn
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Undertaker13 said:No contest NGK!! nothing champion about a chump plug!!
I honestly hate champion plugs, as they are not made to the same quality as the ngk's. However, I still run the stock type champion in my xcsp because they have never failed me. I truly only have the 2nd set in my 00xcsp, even with its high volume oil pump attempting to foul out plugs. I only changed my champions in that sled because I felt I should, not due to fouling. That reminds me to change plugs next time i am up north, for the heck of it. And I will probably get the NGK equivalent at that time due to my good results with ngk's over all these years.
Vmax540
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Question...... what is fouled and what makes a plug fouled beyond use ? Over the years I have taken plugs that are fouled (?) cleaned off the carbon, sprayed with contact or carb cleaner and then I set them on my heat register to dry for a couple days and have never had one not work.
Bakemono
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Ive run both Champions and NGKs in my sled and I dont really notice a difference. As long as the Champions cross reference over to whatever plug your sled is supposed to get, you dont have anything to worry about.
Champions have kind of gotten a bad rap, but I honestly havent had any issues with them.
Champions have kind of gotten a bad rap, but I honestly havent had any issues with them.
alswagg
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I only use NGK in snowmobiles and personal watercraft. I use Champion in most outboard applications, and AC Delco in most inboard applications, Chevy block, Champion in Ford block. Why??? I just feel comfortable with what the OEM recommends.
snomofo
VIP Lifetime Member
I used to replace spark plugs for a living and it has been my experience that Champions work in applications that call for them. I used them in my Polaris and never had any problems with them, but that sled did not like NGK or Autolite.
I've also used them in most Mopar applications without issue but run Autolite in my Cuda. I agree that Champion has gotten a bad rap but I typically run what the OEM suggests.
I've also used them in most Mopar applications without issue but run Autolite in my Cuda. I agree that Champion has gotten a bad rap but I typically run what the OEM suggests.
Bakemono
New member
I personally prefer NGK and Denso, but Champions arent bad. My Polaris is supposed to get Champions, but I use NGK BRP9ES plugs in it and they work well.
snowhite
Member
Issues !!!!
Hey guys',you know when it comes to spark plugs a person can argue till he's blue in the face! It's an old issue on brands and everybody has had there expeireances.I know for a fact I've seen more NGK s foul on a cold start than the Champs.In my old Indy 488 I ran NGK's till I came across the Champion Power plugs. They have a very fine electrode wire type,simular to a platinum plug.They were incredible as they never failed me even if I flooded the engine they never fouled.A nieghbour had the standard champs in his 488 and he hated them,I suggested he try the Power plugs and same thing he liked them.I haven't had an issue on my 600 yamaha yet but I run the NGK 9ecs's.So I guess there is an old saying use what gives you the best and forget the rest!!!!have a good day............
Hey guys',you know when it comes to spark plugs a person can argue till he's blue in the face! It's an old issue on brands and everybody has had there expeireances.I know for a fact I've seen more NGK s foul on a cold start than the Champs.In my old Indy 488 I ran NGK's till I came across the Champion Power plugs. They have a very fine electrode wire type,simular to a platinum plug.They were incredible as they never failed me even if I flooded the engine they never fouled.A nieghbour had the standard champs in his 488 and he hated them,I suggested he try the Power plugs and same thing he liked them.I haven't had an issue on my 600 yamaha yet but I run the NGK 9ecs's.So I guess there is an old saying use what gives you the best and forget the rest!!!!have a good day............
blue missile
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in my opinion it is possible to foul a plug beyond cleaning. it is possible to get a fuel oil mix up indside the plug. the fuel will flash off leaveing the oil there shorting the plug it may still fire, and run but will it perform to expectations. if i foul a plug to the point it wont fire i throw it away and put in a new one not worth the effort.