Dear Mr. President

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Dear Mr. President:

Please find below my suggestion for fixing America 's economy.

Instead of giving billions of dollars to companies that will squander the money on lavish parties and unearned bonuses, use the following plan.

You can call it the Patriotic Retirement Plan.

There are about 40 million people over 50 in the work force.

Pay them $1 million apiece severance for early retirement with the following stipulations:

1) They MUST retire. Forty million job openings - Unemployment fixed.

2) They MUST buy a new AMERICAN CAR. Forty million cars ordered - Auto Industry fixed.

3) They MUST either buy a house or pay off their mortgage - Housing Crisis fixed.

It can't get any easier than that!

If more money is needed, have all members of Congress and their constituents pay their taxes.

If you think this would work, please forward to everyone you know.
 

if you put another 40 million people on the social security plan right away,, it would ALL FAil in a few years.......
 
I think they should help out all the college graduates, so that they don't have to worry about paying back all the greedy banks. Without having to worry about paying back all that debt, then I can go out and buy a home and a new American car.
 
a LOT of those kids have been walking around with their HANDS OUT and their MOUTHS OPEN WIDE for TWENTY PLUS YEARS... it's about time they learned to start paying their own way.. A LOT of college students GO TO COLLEGE so they won't HAVE TO go out and look for a job.. Kids nowadays are AFRAID of a good days work for a good days pay!!!!!
 
I totally agree that some kids are looking for the easy way out, as I think of it. But what about the young people that put themselves through school, work two jobs at the same time, and pay for their own schooling. I'll have 100 thousand in debt, a newborn girl, and a prayer for a good job when I walk next year. I just don't think our country pushes enough for furthering one's education. I don't believe every students debt should be repaid, but I mean come on. I work so **** hard, and it'll take more than half of my lifetime to repay for five years of schooling to help further myself and our nation. I'm not disagreeing with you NOSBOY, that's just how I feel.
 
VenomMod said:
I totally agree that some kids are looking for the easy way out, as I think of it. But what about the young people that put themselves through school, work two jobs at the same time, and pay for their own schooling. I'll have 100 thousand in debt, a newborn girl, and a prayer for a good job when I walk next year. I just don't think our country pushes enough for furthering one's education. I don't believe every students debt should be repaid, but I mean come on. I work so **** hard, and it'll take more than half of my lifetime to repay for five years of schooling to help further myself and our nation. I'm not disagreeing with you NOSBOY, that's just how I feel.


I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but why should I and every other tax paying U.S member of TY pay for your college? I'm not saying it wouldn't be a worthwhile goal for the gubmint to spring college, but it's way down on the list of other entitlements... none of which are constititional.

From what I've read, I'd be griping about the seemingly insulated world of academia when it comes to cost cutting. Regular COLA raises are non-existent in the real world these days except for professors and admin.

You will not regret doing it on your own. I couldn't.

I watched my sister put herself through four years at MSU. She waited to buy neat toys and have babies until she could afford it.
 
All my toys were paid for before school began, truck payment was necessary for the long trips I do, and the future kid was a "surprise". Believe me I've been waiting to buy "neat" toys, and will probably have to wait another 18 years before I get another one. What do you guys think about students that are turned down by student loans due to the economy? I was turned down this summer and had to pay for all of my classes with credit card and my jobs. I'm just hoping something changes so I can get another loan next year to finish up my schooling.
 
VenomMod said:
I totally agree that some kids are looking for the easy way out, as I think of it. But what about the young people that put themselves through school, work two jobs at the same time, and pay for their own schooling. I'll have 100 thousand in debt, a newborn girl, and a prayer for a good job when I walk next year. I just don't think our country pushes enough for furthering one's education. I don't believe every students debt should be repaid, but I mean come on. I work so **** hard, and it'll take more than half of my lifetime to repay for five years of schooling to help further myself and our nation. I'm not disagreeing with you NOSBOY, that's just how I feel.

I went to a two year tech college so mine was alot less but a good friend of mine went this route. Strait to the Air Force 20 days after graduating from high school in 89. Two years in Guam and a year and a half in California. Early out and strait to UW Madison for a year and then MSOE. Four years there and a degree in electrical engineering. He told me that the money from the Air Force paid for his first year at state and that was it. So like you he was ear deep in debt. He got a job right away after college at 26 he started making double payments on his college loans once working. He is 37 soon to be 38 and will be done paying it off this fall. Just keep your nose to the grind stone and things will pan out.

I hear you on making it less painful also as I'm preparing to send my 6 and 4 year old daughters to college if they so choose. Oh and number three also if the kid chooses. I doubt I will have it all when you see what they say it will cost 15 years from now.

What would help everyone is less taxes, which equals more money in Joe and Jane tax payers wallet which allows them to buy more which would help keep the economy going. My dad who is retired sits and bitchs at the news and complains young people just want a hand out too. Well when he was just starting out half of what he made wasn't going to taxes to pay for someone else to sit back and take it easy. It wasn't our generation that got us in this mess but guess who its being dumped on while the rest are sitting back relaxing saying its not my problem anymore. Give me my SS check. :o|
 
Everyone is interested in sending their kids to college.. Most every parent wants their children to turn out better than they did!!! MOST KIDS don't realize that you GET OUT what you PUT IN.... Theres TOO MANY kids out there that think they are TOO GOOD or TOO SMART to be working a SHOVEL 40 hours a week.. Let me tell you something,,,COLLEGE EDUCATED OR NOT,,,,,, THERE STILL has to be people throwing around shovels and PLEASE don't ever think you're better than working a shovel or getting into a TRADE.... I've been in the TRADES for a LONG TIME and I make SIX FIGURES working everyday!!!! College kids these days are TOO ARROGANT to lift a shovel for ANYONE!!!! I remember my father (rip 1980) telling me about the generation of kids in the 1970's and telling me that they won't amount to much.... I think it's TEN TIMES worse than in the 1970's!!!!
 
The kid (21 years old) across the street SLEEPS to 11am or NOON everyday.. He comes over and types on his blackberry when I try and put him to work.. They call that a Ni**er around here.. He's FINE with his mother paying his car payment,,mooching cigarettes and being a NI**ER!!! I think he's too STUPID to amount to anything....
 
I'm definitely not afraid to do some hard labor. Been in the trades since age 13. Started working at a restaurant as a dishwasher and worked out in the field with my dad swinging hammers. I just learned early on that it's better to use your brain then your back.
 
If I could find a job swinging a hammer or digging ditches that'll pay 6 figs, I'd gladly quit school. I really miss being able to work outside and get dirty. Starting to think this school thing is overrated. LOL. I know I'll never be able to have someone pick up my tab for school, fine by me. My point was that I hope our nation puts more emphasis on schooling and somehow makes it more affordable for others to go to school. I had buddies from High School that wanted to go, but simply couldn't afford it, even with help from the family and govt loans (when they were easier to get compared to now). They're doing alright right now, but still wonder "what if". I'm scraping by, happier than hell. I hope all finishes up well, not for me, but for the future little VenomMod. LOL.
 
VenomMod said:
If I could find a job swinging a hammer or digging ditches that'll pay 6 figs, I'd gladly quit school. I really miss being able to work outside and get dirty. Starting to think this school thing is overrated. LOL. I know I'll never be able to have someone pick up my tab for school, fine by me. My point was that I hope our nation puts more emphasis on schooling and somehow makes it more affordable for others to go to school. I had buddies from High School that wanted to go, but simply couldn't afford it, even with help from the family and govt loans (when they were easier to get compared to now). They're doing alright right now, but still wonder "what if". I'm scraping by, happier than hell. I hope all finishes up well, not for me, but for the future little VenomMod. LOL.



My sister was not eligible for a school loan (we weren't poor enough and she was the wrong color). But that didn't stop her from working two or three jobs while going full time. I have a hard time buying into the "not affordable" when I've seen first hand it is possible. Priorities. I wanted to go too, but not bad enough to sacrifice other important things at the time (like chasing broads, drinking and racing).

Again, I'm not trying to beat you up, but you mentioned you drive a truck due to the long trips you take.

I used to drive 160 miles a day and had to decide if I wanted to spend $600.00-$700.00 a month to fill up my Bronco or replace it for something with better fuel economy. This was when fuel was $4.00 a gallon and trading it in for a Focus wagon allowed me to still save money even with increased insurance premiums and the new car note. Do I like driving a Focus wagon, heck no. Does the family budget like the fuel bill vs. the Bronco, you bet.

I'm all for low interest loans for school including defered payment. Do I think these are a better investment than other gubmint entitlements, sure do. But with the most liberal POTUS in the Whitehouse since FDR, my guess is that we won't be in any shape for gubmint backed school loans when the tab comes for other so called "rights" (i.e. housing, healthcare, free beer - okay, maybe not free beer). It will be your kid and mine paying for it.

You sound like you've got your head on straight and I commend you for sticking it out attending college. Like I said, I couldn't, or rather wouldn't do it.

As for society putting a greater emphasis on higher learning... no amount of government intervention is going to change someone's upbringing. Just look at the Detroit Public School system (of which I attended... sort of). We keep sinking cash into that hole with only 5% ready for college. I place a lot of blame on the system itself but the majority goes to the parents which again, no amount of Uncle Sugar's handouts will change.
 
snomofo said:
I'm all for low interest loans for school including defered payment. Do I think these are a better investment than other gubmint entitlements, sure do. But with the most liberal POTUS in the Whitehouse since FDR, my guess is that we won't be in any shape for gubmint backed school loans when the tab comes for other so called "rights" (i.e. housing, healthcare, free beer - okay, maybe not free beer). It will be your kid and mine paying for it.

You sound like you've got your head on straight and I commend you for sticking it out attending college. Like I said, I couldn't, or rather wouldn't do it.

As for society putting a greater emphasis on higher learning... no amount of government intervention is going to change someone's upbringing. Just look at the Detroit Public School system (of which I attended... sort of). We keep sinking cash into that hole with only 5% ready for college. I place a lot of blame on the system itself but the majority goes to the parents which again, no amount of Uncle Sugar's handouts will change.

I agree.

A tool supplier was telling me when in Detriot on business it looked more like bombed out Beirut. Is it that bad? Never been there.
 
BARON 8BU said:
I agree.

A tool supplier was telling me when in Detriot on business it looked more like bombed out Beirut. Is it that bad? Never been there.

Oh yeah, it is. My old neighborhood just East of City Airport isn't quite as bad as what's West of the airport, but it's getting there. An old school mate still lives there (waiting for the Airport to buy him out) and you can look out his front door and see six blocks over... no houses left.

Put it another way... I dropped out of DPS during my Junior year after attending a Catholic school (DeLaSalle) for my freshman year. I went back 10 years later for my GED - cold turkey/no pre-test studying and graduated with honors. In other words, I learned more in my freshman year than the next two years in DPS.

They're still learning fractions in 11th grade. This was 20 years ago. Damn, I am an old man.
 
That's a shame. My daughter is doing fractions currently in first grade. I thought holy crap she's in first, whats the hurry.

I fish and hunt alot in upper Michigan and feel this is the most beautiful area in the midwest. Hopefully we can turn all this around and leave the same opportunities for our kids that was here for us.
 
BARON 8BU said:
That's a shame. My daughter is doing fractions currently in first grade. I thought holy crap she's in first, whats the hurry.

I fish and hunt alot in upper Michigan and feel this is the most beautiful area in the midwest. Hopefully we can turn all this around and leave the same opportunities for our kids that was here for us.


Jr. starts Kindergarden this year and we still had the option of half day but it sounds like next year it'll be manditory all day... I think across the state.

I didn't know how to spell my first name when I started 1st grade but times have changed and Jr. is required to know a lot more than I did starting out.

We live to hunt and fish (and ride) and don't want to think about leaving the area. Hopefully we won't have to.

Hopefully just planning on never retiring will be enough.
 
I'd love to stay in Michigan, but the UP is really slow. So staying in area is probably out of the question. Northern lower Michigan (home for me) is also slow. Most companies that are hiring my profession are on the West coast or I'll end up in Texas or even Omaha Nebraska. A couple big firms are interested in me, so hopefully large construction keeps pushing on.
 


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