bluemonster1
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I thought I would ask Gary this question.The product{HEET} which happens to be made in Chicago has this written on the back of the bottle.
Do not use in 2 cycle or diesel engine.I can see maybe not in the diesel engine,but this is a gas-line antifreeze and water remover.Says on the front of the bottle for fuel injection and carburetors..What gives here then.I thought I read from fellow TY members that they have used HEET in their sleds.I am now confused on the matter.What the Hell???????I would like an explanation please why it is written on the back in fine print not to use in 2 cycle engines..What will happen then to my motor...can't figure this one out.
Do not use in 2 cycle or diesel engine.I can see maybe not in the diesel engine,but this is a gas-line antifreeze and water remover.Says on the front of the bottle for fuel injection and carburetors..What gives here then.I thought I read from fellow TY members that they have used HEET in their sleds.I am now confused on the matter.What the Hell???????I would like an explanation please why it is written on the back in fine print not to use in 2 cycle engines..What will happen then to my motor...can't figure this one out.
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alswagg
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HEET in the Yellow bottle contains methonal, HEET in the Red bottle contains, isopropanal. Yellow bottle for four strokes, red bottle for both. I do not recommend either. Al
daman
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x2...stay away...if you want to get rid of water run some ethanol gas.alswagg said:I do not recommend either. Al
bluemonster1
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ok...sob...... the yellow bottles.Guess they go into the vehicles then.I want isopropanol for the sleds.I like add a tad into every tank just in case.Lucky they were on sale and I bought only 6 of them.
alswagg
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If you are using ethonal in your gas for your automobiles, do not use the Yellow bottle containing methonal. It will only add more alcohol to your fuel. Your best bet is to take back the product. Al
bluemonster1
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why would they make a product that is no good to use then..
daman
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it works..i guess,, just not good in 2 strokes blue
alswagg
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When I was at Mercury outboard service school a few years back the discussion came up about Heet, Methonal. The products containging methonal softened the crank seals on the upper and lower journals, thus creating a lean conditon for for the effected cyl's. Alot of people were trying to use this product to eliminate water from the fuel. The only method which really works is a fuel/water seperating filter. Problem is they are too big to fit in most snowmobiles. Al
bluemonster1
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thanks for the heads up guys.The Heet will go into my snowblower and my wfe's Windstar.I only have like 6 bottles anyways,no biggie.
rx1jim
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OK, so you folks are saying to not use any form of a gas line antifreeze in the sleds? Water will accumulate in the tanks of our sleds, the tanks are vented and we cretae a lot of snow dust which does get pulled into the tank as the gas is consumed. All of the gas I buy in the region where I ride contains 10% ethanol so this ethanol will absorb the water. In Quebec, where I also do some riding I don't think they are blending ethanol with the gas. I have been adding isopropyl alcohol based gas line antifreeze to my sleds for many years without problems. I add it during the last gas fill-up for the day, ususally 4-6 oz. per 10 gallons. During a several day trip touring through Quebec, a friend of mine had one of those gas drier devices that drops into the tank. One morning he pulled it out of the tank, it had so much ice on it that it was a tight fit to get it out of the tank inlet.
daman
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I dont think no one said it'll blow up a sled(unless a high ratio is used then possible,i dont recomend it at all)if one thinks he has water run some ethanol gas it will absorb the water in the tank and move it through and out the engine.rx1jim said:OK, so you folks are saying to not use any form of a gas line antifreeze in the sleds? Water will accumulate in the tanks of our sleds, the tanks are vented and we cretae a lot of snow dust which does get pulled into the tank as the gas is consumed. All of the gas I buy in the region where I ride contains 10% ethanol so this ethanol will absorb the water. In Quebec, where I also do some riding I don't think they are blending ethanol with the gas. I have been adding isopropyl alcohol based gas line antifreeze to my sleds for many years without problems. I add it during the last gas fill-up for the day, ususally 4-6 oz. per 10 gallons. During a several day trip touring through Quebec, a friend of mine had one of those gas drier devices that drops into the tank. One morning he pulled it out of the tank, it had so much ice on it that it was a tight fit to get it out of the tank inlet.
alswagg
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isopropal is supposed to be ok for 2 strokes, but methonal is not.
Alcohol, either isopropyl, ethyl, or methyl,,, WILL remove EMMOLIENTS from rubber... Emmolients are the "softeners" that make rubber PLIABLE ESPECIALLY IN COLD WEATHER!!! using ANY KIND OF ALCOHOL,,, WHATEVER BASED,, is ABSOLUTELY DUMB for a TWO STROKE SNOWMOBILE!!!! Remember,, two strokes MIX the fuel with the lubricant..... The ALCOHOL even attacks the lubricant as it's going thru the crank seals and bearings.... ALCOHOLS ARE BIGTIME BAD NEWS for two stroke engines!!!
I was up in Eagle River WIsconsin over the weekend looking for an OLD FRIEND!!!
bluemonster1
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so these products are sold in hopes that something will happen to a motor and that then creates work for the mechanic's and parts dealers.Great to hear GARY.I wander if any kind of gas is good for a 2 stroke motor also,bet you not.There is nothing good out there anymore it seems.Maybe I should try coffee in my tanks...lol
snomofo
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daman said:I dont think no one said it'll blow up a sled(unless a high ratio is used then possible,i dont recomend it at all)if one thinks he has water run some ethanol gas it will absorb the water in the tank and move it through and out the engine.
These products used to be (before ethanol subsudies) the only way to remove water from fuel short of phycially removing it.
I have used it in my sleds on occation but haven't in years. Not really necassary in autos either IMO.
Anyone remember alcohol as a coolant before glycol?