Over the past month or so I have been reading all 650+ back pages of threads trying to learn as much as possible on the SRX. I came across a thread talking about TORS- I know it has something to do with the throttle- can someone explain further?
sgauthier
Member
Throttle Over Ride switch connected to the throttle cable at the carbs. Cuts engine rpms down in case throttle gets stuck wide open, like when it freezes.
hope this helps
hope this helps
how does it know the difference between "stuck" wide open and "held" wide opensgauthier said:
It's two microswitches that talk back and forth to each other. They have to be in agreement. So if the one on the carbs is at wide open, and the one on the throttle is at half the system goes "we have an issue" and limits the rpm to 3500 or so.
ahhhh- I seeRyan B said:
srxman72
Member
This system fails on a lot of SRX's, if you engine bogs and loses spark, this is usually the problem. All you have to do is unplug it because it is not necessary
not necessary, but very nice if something ever goes wrong. my 96 800 had an airbox tab get sucked down into the carbs and stuck the slides open. if it hadnt been for tors, the thing would have tried driving through the side of my shed.
if theres no problem, dont unhook it. if its coming on, see if theres a problem with/in your carbs or throttle first
if theres no problem, dont unhook it. if its coming on, see if theres a problem with/in your carbs or throttle first
super1c
Super Moderator
srxman72 said:
Oh it is very necessary, im sure some will disagree. I would unhook it to diagnose a problem with it but i will always have it working. If it is causing problems you need to find the source. unplugging it is just a bandaid on a potential big problem. When it comes to safety of my faimly or me, or anyone for that matter unplugging it because it is not necessary is not an option. When a throttle sticks open my daughter could be at the other end of a runaway sled and that is not acceptable. Sorry if i seem harsh on this topic but a injury or life is not worth a little bit of time to figure out why the tors is not working. My opinion that i hope others share. CCC
TORS stands for "throttle override system". If your SRX's TORS engages, the cause is more than likely that the throttle cable is actually stuck. Look under the steering pillow, the throttle cable could get stuck on a bolt head that holds the steer bar. Happened to my 98 srx 600. Tied it so it wouldnt go there again, never had the same problem.
srxman72
Member
Yeah I just said that because last season I was dealing with the problem all winter. I would go on rides and randomly I would lose all power and it would backfire. I looked online for solutions to the problem and couldnt find anything. It was very fustrating because I not joke cleaned the carburators 5 times and replaced all the coils(with used ones of course) trying to find the problem. Finally I just brought it to my mechanic and he just unplugged the wire and said not to replace the mechanism because the only thing he said it does is when you start the sled and you happen to have the throttle wide open for some reason it will cut out spark. But obviously getting a second opinion and finding what else it does might make me want to replace it. I cant complain about the sled though as this is the only problem ive had with it at 12400 miles.
WNYViper
New member
First time you clean the carbs and take the sled for a ride you will figure out what the TORS does, lol... leave plenty of slack on the throttle cable at the carbs, like the other guys have said, the micro-switches at the carb and thumb throttle have to agree with each other otherwise it will start misfiring around 3500rpm...
super1c
Super Moderator
srxman72 said:
Didnt mean to jump on ya, a mechanic worth his weight would fix it right. You probably just have to adjust it like the post crewchief has. Torrs is a sore subject with me as it has served it purpose more than once. Sorry no offense intended. CCC
This is not directed at anyone in particular.
Same old story, 'I just cleaned the carbs and now it runs weird'. Nobody ever mentions that they re-assembled the throttle and took most of the slack out of the cable......TORS switches do fail but I would hazard a guess that 90%+ of the bypassed TORS out there are just out of adjustment.
Adjust the cable and test your system. That way you'll know what it sounds like when TORS is activating.
Same old story, 'I just cleaned the carbs and now it runs weird'. Nobody ever mentions that they re-assembled the throttle and took most of the slack out of the cable......TORS switches do fail but I would hazard a guess that 90%+ of the bypassed TORS out there are just out of adjustment.
Adjust the cable and test your system. That way you'll know what it sounds like when TORS is activating.
srxman72
Member
Mine started failing randomly one day on a ride, not after I cleaned the carbs. And it just got progressivly worse and worse.
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And all this time I thought they spoke Japanese . . . Now we find out it was English after all . . . or maybe a little Engrish . . .Ryan B said:
Sorry Ryan, Just having a little fun.
I am under the impression that they are such intelligent little buggers that they speak whatever language the present owner of the sled speaks. That way everyone can try and communicate with them in that "horse whisperer" sort of way.
biffdotorg
VIP Member
+1 on out of adjustment.
The most common time they get out of adjustment was just after that approach got in my way at 60mph and I slammed myself on the handlebars throwing them out of adjustment. Of course that never happens to anyone else.
The point is, just moving those handlebars back into place can throw the throttle and TORS out of adjustment. Now you have a backfiring sled all the way back to the trailer. This happened another time moving he handlebars up a bit for a better riding position on my SRX. TORS issues, GRR. Just need to adjust the cables.
I went to install a small riser block on my Phazer last year and it shot a TORS error code and cut spark. I need to do a re-route on the throttle cable and adjust the next time I plan on installing that pivot riser, or add cable extensions. Again, this will require a re-adjust according to the service manual. Each manual has the proper adjustment details.
Good luck!
The most common time they get out of adjustment was just after that approach got in my way at 60mph and I slammed myself on the handlebars throwing them out of adjustment. Of course that never happens to anyone else.
The point is, just moving those handlebars back into place can throw the throttle and TORS out of adjustment. Now you have a backfiring sled all the way back to the trailer. This happened another time moving he handlebars up a bit for a better riding position on my SRX. TORS issues, GRR. Just need to adjust the cables.
I went to install a small riser block on my Phazer last year and it shot a TORS error code and cut spark. I need to do a re-route on the throttle cable and adjust the next time I plan on installing that pivot riser, or add cable extensions. Again, this will require a re-adjust according to the service manual. Each manual has the proper adjustment details.
Good luck!