Just bought some AAEN pipes for my 01 SXR 700. Does anyone have a good setup for these? Mostly trail and lake riding in upper MI. Interested in reliable setup don't need to be on the edge.
My sled is currently all stock.
Thanks
My sled is currently all stock.
Thanks
i got a set on one of my 98`s (srx) and i belive it has 150`s straight across on it ,,,just now seen you got a sxr not too sure there
tcdesignguy
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Those are going to wake the crap up out of your sled. You'll be amazed. You have to get some clutching.. I am running bender pipes and had to put in an RX1 heliz plus diff weights and spring etc.
mopar1rules
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probably end up using around 148.8 mains
methanolhemi
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Run pipes at 9000rpm.
Run sled with stock clutching for a baseline and start changing from there.
Tuner time
Run sled with stock clutching for a baseline and start changing from there.
Tuner time
Thanks for the replies, keep em coming.
I am getting the tuning sheet with them, just wondered if there is any knowledge that differs from what AAEN tell me or should I just set them up per there instructions.
Anybody know what clutch springs and weights?
I am getting the tuning sheet with them, just wondered if there is any knowledge that differs from what AAEN tell me or should I just set them up per there instructions.
Anybody know what clutch springs and weights?
methanolhemi
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Follow aaen's set-up for a good baseline. Will get you
close. Then tune from there.
close. Then tune from there.
methanolhemi
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Aaen sells a kit with his Blue secondary spring and
2 primary shims. Still using stock weights.
I used this in my 600 to start with and worked well.
2 primary shims. Still using stock weights.
I used this in my 600 to start with and worked well.
ok thanks i will report back when i get things installed.
Ok just got the pipes delivered. They look pretty good. Thanks MM800 you are a good guy and sent me everything you said you would.
Couple questions:
There are some small holes next to the cylinder where it looks like some probes were installed. Any suggestions on the best way to close these up. I don't have a welder, but could take it somewhere if i had too.
I also got a black and yellow spring and a blue spring. It says to use the B/Y in the primary. I assume the blue is for the secondary. I have rebuilt engines but never done any clutching. What do i need to do a good clutch rebuild and do I need any special tools. Also, do I need to do the clutches right away or can I ride with stock clutching?
This is probably a dumb question but here goes anyway. The directions say to increase main jets 1 size, but because of increased vacuum a large jetting change should not be necessary. Since the stock jetting is so rich anyway do I really need to go up one size?
I'm sure I will have more as I get into this. My goal is to have it still be reliable and not finicky when done. I don't need to eke out every bit of power available.
Couple questions:
There are some small holes next to the cylinder where it looks like some probes were installed. Any suggestions on the best way to close these up. I don't have a welder, but could take it somewhere if i had too.
I also got a black and yellow spring and a blue spring. It says to use the B/Y in the primary. I assume the blue is for the secondary. I have rebuilt engines but never done any clutching. What do i need to do a good clutch rebuild and do I need any special tools. Also, do I need to do the clutches right away or can I ride with stock clutching?
This is probably a dumb question but here goes anyway. The directions say to increase main jets 1 size, but because of increased vacuum a large jetting change should not be necessary. Since the stock jetting is so rich anyway do I really need to go up one size?
I'm sure I will have more as I get into this. My goal is to have it still be reliable and not finicky when done. I don't need to eke out every bit of power available.
methanolhemi
New member
If you use aaen's set-up the clutching is real close
and if anything you can always add clutch weight.
Aaen's set-up is general so rider weight, etc will reflect
your final clutch set-up. When I ran my 600 with these
pipes I ended up using 1 size larger pilot jets, 4 sizes larger
mains, and raised needle 1.5 slots. This was spot on trail safe
jetting for my sled. Watch your needle jets as these pipes
like more fuel in midrange.
I suggest you read Mrviper's jetting page in tech section!
and if anything you can always add clutch weight.
Aaen's set-up is general so rider weight, etc will reflect
your final clutch set-up. When I ran my 600 with these
pipes I ended up using 1 size larger pilot jets, 4 sizes larger
mains, and raised needle 1.5 slots. This was spot on trail safe
jetting for my sled. Watch your needle jets as these pipes
like more fuel in midrange.
I suggest you read Mrviper's jetting page in tech section!
Thanks for the reply. I am pretty familiar with reading plug color and piston wash, but I will probably read it one more time. Can't hurt to refresh my memory and its better than screwing up my engine.
Another question.
If I go up one jet size do I still maintain the staggered sizes. You know what i mean, the stock PTO jet is a 145 and the others are like 143.5.
So logically I would think that I would just increase each jet 1 to end up with 146, 144.5, 144.5.
If I go up one jet size do I still maintain the staggered sizes. You know what i mean, the stock PTO jet is a 145 and the others are like 143.5.
So logically I would think that I would just increase each jet 1 to end up with 146, 144.5, 144.5.
mopar1rules
Active member
sxr70001 said:Another question.
If I go up one jet size do I still maintain the staggered sizes. You know what i mean, the stock PTO jet is a 145 and the others are like 143.5.
So logically I would think that I would just increase each jet 1 to end up with 146, 144.5, 144.5.
i would still stagger the jetting for starters. also, start out w/like 148.8 mains or 150's to play it safe. keep an eye on plug color and piston wash, and then determine jetting changes from there.
That's a good idea. So go up like 3 or 4 sizes and work down till I get it right then?
Also, this paper I'm looking at says "AAEN Blue Sec Spring, Install spring 9 and 2"
What does that mean.
Also, this paper I'm looking at says "AAEN Blue Sec Spring, Install spring 9 and 2"
What does that mean.
methanolhemi
New member
Keep the staggered jet sizes.
9 and 2 refers to holes in helix and secondary clutch.
The holes are numered. You will see what I mean when
you look at your helix and clutch. This is the spring twist
in degrees. 9+2=11 or 110 degrees
9 and 2 refers to holes in helix and secondary clutch.
The holes are numered. You will see what I mean when
you look at your helix and clutch. This is the spring twist
in degrees. 9+2=11 or 110 degrees
Ok thanks
anybody have any ideas for plugging the probe holes? Could i just run a screw in there?
Also, are there bushings and other wear parts I should buy for the clutches?
anybody have any ideas for plugging the probe holes? Could i just run a screw in there?
Also, are there bushings and other wear parts I should buy for the clutches?
methanolhemi
New member
I just want to mention to watch your needles as
your main jets are hardly an issue unless your wide open
for 600ft or more. Needle jet will cause a burn down
first. You could try welding to fix those holes but unsure.
Get a clymer manuel for your sled and you will have the
wear specs for your clutches. Recommended
your main jets are hardly an issue unless your wide open
for 600ft or more. Needle jet will cause a burn down
first. You could try welding to fix those holes but unsure.
Get a clymer manuel for your sled and you will have the
wear specs for your clutches. Recommended
mopar1rules
Active member
methanolhemi said:Keep the staggered jet sizes.
9 and 2 refers to holes in helix and secondary clutch.
The holes are numered. You will see what I mean when
you look at your helix and clutch. This is the spring twist
in degrees. 9+2=11 or 110 degrees
it would be 110deg w/a yamaha spring, but aaen sec springs are wrapped differently i believe, where holes 9-2 is like 60 deg or something like that. hauck red sec spring is like that.
mopar1rules
Active member
sxr70001 said:That's a good idea. So go up like 3 or 4 sizes and work down till I get it right then?
Also, this paper I'm looking at says "AAEN Blue Sec Spring, Install spring 9 and 2"
What does that mean.
sure, start 3 sizes fatter on the mains, and work down from there. whatever the stock mains were for you, increase them by 3 sizes and go from there. also, i'm 99% sure you won't need to touch the needles.....stock setting SHOULD be fine. also, i would weld a small patch piece of sheet metal over the egt probe holes.
will probably have to mess w/the pilot circuit, w/either the fuel screws and/or the pilot jets.