need help. water in pipe

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Tried to start the sled today and she died instantly. Found water filing pro pipe. Blown head gasket? Should I worry about damage to rings? I'm reluctant to take the jug off because I will have to replace the base gasket right? Do I have to worry about a bent crank? She never got above idle. I let it stall a good three times though.
 
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Tried to start the sled today and she died instantly. Found water filing pro pipe. Blown head gasket? Should I worry about damage to rings? I'm reluctant to take the jug off because I will have to replace the base gasket right? Do I have to worry about a bent crank? She never got above idle. I let it stall a good three times though.
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First thing I would do is check the spark plugs to see if it was just one cylinder. If it wasn't, then it could have leaked in coolant from the base gasket into the crankcase. I would then be more concerned about the bearings in the bottom end. You will be able to lube the bearings pretty good if you end up having to take it the cylinders off anyway. Top end should be fine.
 
Only one pipe had water. And it was a lot. Enough to fill the belly pan. Other two where dry. Took the jug off pro. Some water in bottom. Some surface rust on rod. Should I be concerned. Do I have to replace the base now that I took a high off?
 
Not good...I'm no engine builder, but I would think you'd need to replace all the crank bearings and that rod bearing at a minimum, if not all the rod bearings too, just to be safe. And then new head and base gaskets of course...A little rust on one of those bearings could shut you down when you're miles from home.
 
So is the rust on the rod excessive or is it normal? The crank case did not have any water in it, outside of a few table spoons.
 
well... Im gonna slap new gaskets on it and run her until she blows. No way am I sinking a grand into it to have the crank rebuilt etc...
 
all gonna depend on how long the antifreeze was in the bottomend.

rods have a copper color to them stock, doesnt look like rust to me as much as copper color...

if the water/antifreeze was in bottmend for long, and rusted the crank bearings, youll know real quick like as it will seize a main bearing and bring the engine to a halt quickly. :o|
 
It couldn't of been more then a day. I just had it running the day before. Could have been slow leak for some time though.
 
if you fogged your motor prior really good...that may help you from rust setting in..Just clean out cases with gas or diesel fuel,run 2 stroke oil in there to soak bearings ,rotate a lot and then wash out again.
I have a old snowblower that was once run when there was no oil in crankcase,,motor stopped abruptly on me,took head off and put oil on piston and took rubber end of hammer and pushed the seized piston down..lots of oil and got it to move up and down again.Then in 1997 the Flood of the Century,,my dad had all his small engine equipment in his garage,water broke thru the sandbags and everything with a motor on it was submerged in water,Chainsaws,rotortillers,lawnmowers,weedwacker,snowblower..etc.He cleaned it all and got water out..This snowblower I have now and it is at least 30 years old(10 HP motor)..This motor still starts in 2 pulls and runs fine.So the bearings weren.t destroyed in the crank.
If you get things cleaned out quick and lube things good,,your chances are good she'll still be good...
 
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