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On Frozen Lakes
Posted: April 4, 2012 in Uncategorized
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The WI DNR is proposing and endorsing a 25 mph speed limit restriction on all WI frozen lakes. This is on the agenda for their spring hearings being held in every county in the state on Monday, April 9th at 7:00 pm. See the locations and times posted below. The question #65 appears on page 25 of their questionaire as follows:
QUESTION 65. Create a maximum of 25 mph on Frozen Water (# 180311)
(requires legislation)
Winter outdoor recreation activities are increasing in popularity and there are a growing number of users on the frozen waters of the state. Anglers, snowmobilers, ATVers, cross-country skiers, ice skaters, and Wisconsinites of all ages are often found simultaneously enjoying the frozen waters of the state. Cars, trucks, snowmobiles, and ATV’s driving and riding on the frozen surface, can create safety hazards and issues for other users. Sometimes these vehicles are moving at high speeds and within close proximity to persons, other vehicles, or structures. Vehicles moving at high speeds also contribute to some degree to the deterioration of ice conditions due to the energy wave created under the surface of the ice. ATV’s and snowmobiles are currently required to slow to 10 mph on the ice when within 100 feet of a person not on a motorized vehicle or within 100 feet of an ice shanty. Speed limits for licensed motor vehicles (cars, trucks, etc) on the frozen waters of the state are not regulated on a statewide basis by state law and only some municipalities have local regulations. This proposal would create consistent regulations for all licensed motorized vehicles (cars, trucks, etc) on the frozen waters of the state.
Would you support legislation creating a maximum speed limit of 25 mph for all licensed motorized vehicles (cars, trucks, etc) travelling on frozen waters of the state unless on a designated state or club marked trail?
This will affect motorcycle ice riding, snowmobiles and atv’s. It will effectively ban any sport ice riding. If at all possible, show up at the meeting in your county and vote against this proposal. Check for your time and location on the list below:
Meeting Locations:
DNR Spring Hearings and Wisconsin Conservation Congress County Meeting
Monday, April 9, 2012, 7:00 p.m.
Adams Adams County Courthouse, County Board Room A230, 402 Main Street, Friendship, WI 53934
Ashland Ashland County Court House, Main Court Room, 201 Main Street West, Ashland, WI 54806
Barron Barron Government Center, Auditorium, 303 E. LaSalle Ave., Barron, WI 54812
Bayfield Bayfield County Courthouse, Upstairs, 117 E. 5th Street, Washburn, WI 54891
Brown Northeast Wisconsin Technical College (SC132), 2740 W. Mason St., Green Bay, WI 54313
Buffalo Alma High School Gymnasium, S1618 STH 35, Alma, WI 54610
Burnett Burnett County Government Center, Room 165, 7410 County Road K, Siren, WI 54872
Calumet Calumet County Courthouse, Rm. B025, 206 Court Street, Chilton, WI 53014
Chippewa Chippewa Falls Middle School, 750 Tropicana Blvd., Chippewa Falls, WI 54729
Clark Greenwood High School, 306 W. Central Ave., Greenwood, WI 54437
Columbia Wayne E. Bartels Middle School, Gymnasium, 2505 New Pinery Rd., Portage, WI 53901
Crawford Prairie du Chien High School, Auditorium, 800 E. Crawford St., Prairie du Chien, WI 53821
Dane Middleton Cross Plains Performing Arts Center, 2100 Bristol St., Middleton, WI 53562
Dodge Horicon International Education Center, Lower Level Auditorium, N7725 STH 28, Horicon, WI 53032
Door Crossroads at Big Creek, 2041 Michigan St., Sturgeon Bay, WI 54235
Douglas Brule Town Hall, 5820 S. Maple St., Brule, WI 54820
Dunn Dunn County Fish and Game Club, 1900 Pioneer Ave., Menomonie, WI 54751
Eau Claire South Middle School, Auditorium, 2115 Mitscher Ave., Eau Claire, WI 54701
Florence Florence Natural Resource Center, Basement Conference Rm., 5631 Forestry Dr., Florence, WI 54121
Fond du Lac Theisen Middle School, 525 E Pioneer Rd., Fond du Lac, Wisconsin 54935
Forest Crandon High School, Auditorium, 9750 US HWY 8 West, Crandon, WI 54520
Grant Youth and Agriculture Building Main Auditorium, 916 East Elm Street, Lancaster, WI 53813
Green Monroe Middle School, 1510 13th Avenue, Monroe, WI 53566
Green Lake Green Lake High School, Small Gym, 612 Mill St., Green Lake, WI 54941
Iowa Dodgeville High School, Gymnasium, 912 Chapel Street, Dodgeville, WI 53533
Iron Iron County Courthouse, 300 Taconite Street, Hurley, WI 54534
Jackson Black River Falls Middle School, LGI Room, 1202 Pierce Street, Black River Falls, WI 54615
Jefferson Jefferson County Fair Park Activity Center, 503 N. Jackson, Jefferson, WI 52549
Juneau Olson Middle School Auditorium, 508 Grayside Avenue, Mauston, WI 53948
Kenosha Bristol Elementary School, Gymnasium, 20121 83rd Street, Bristol, WI 53104
Kewaunee Kewaunee High School, Auditorium, 911 Third Street, Kewaunee, WI 54216
La Crosse Onalaska High School, Auditorium, 700 Hilltopper Place, Onalaska, WI 54650
Lafayette Darlington Elementary School, Large Group Room, 11630 Center Hill Road, Darlington, WI 53530
Langlade Antigo High School, Volm Theater, 1900 10th Ave., Antigo, WI 54409
Lincoln Tomahawk Elementary School, 1048 East King Road, Tomahawk, WI 54487
Manitowoc UW-Manitowoc, Auditorium, 705 Viebahn Street, Manitowoc, WI 54220
Marathon D.C. Everest Middle School, Auditorium, 9302 Schofield Avenue, Weston, WI 54476
Marinette Crivitz High School, Auditorium, 400 South Avenue, Crivitz, WI 54114
Marquette Montello High School Community Room, 222 Forest Lane, Montello, WI 53949
Menominee Menominee County Courthouse,W3269 Courthouse Lane, Keshena, WI 54135
Milwaukee Nathan Hale High School, Auditorium, 11601 W. Lincoln Ave., West Allis, WI 53227
Monroe Meadowview School, Cafetorium A103, 1225 N Water Street, Sparta, WI 54656
Oconto Suring High School, Cafeteria, 411 E Algoma St., Suring, WI 54174
Oneida Nicolet College, LRC Theatre, 5355 Campus Road, Rhinelander, WI 54501
Outagamie Riverview Middle School Auditorium, 101 Oak St., Kaukauna, WI 54130
Ozaukee Cedarburg Cultural Center, W62 N546 Washington Avenue, Cedarburg, WI 53012
Pepin Pepin County Government Center, County Board Room, 740 7th Ave. West, Durand, WI 54736
Pierce Ellsworth Senior High School, Auditorium, 323 Hillcrest, Ellsworth, WI 54011
Polk Unity High School/Unity Community Ed., Auditorium, 1908 150th St. Hwy 46, Balsam Lake, WI 54810
Portage Ben Franklin Junior High School Auditorium, 2000 Polk St., Stevens Point, WI 54481
Price Price County Courthouse, Board Room, 126 Cherry St., Phillips, WI 54555
Racine Union Grove High School, Performance Arts Center, 3433 S. Colony Ave., Union Grove, WI 53182
Richland Richland County Courthouse, Upstairs Courtroom, 181 West Seminary, Richland Center, WI 53581
Rock Pontiac Convention Center, 2809 N Pontiac Dr., Janesville, WI 53545
Rusk Ladysmith High School, Auditorium, 1700 E. Edgewood Ave., Ladysmith, WI 54848
Saint Croix St Croix Central High School, Commons, 1751 Broadway St., Hammond, WI 54015
Sauk UW Baraboo Campus, Lecture Hall A-4, 1006 Connie Road, Baraboo, WI 53913
Sawyer Winter High School, 6585W Grove Street, Winter, WI 54896
Shawano Shawano Middle School, LGI Room, 1050 S. Union St., Shawano, WI 54166
Sheboygan Sheboygan Falls High School, Auditorium, 220 Amherst Ave., Sheboygan Falls, WI 53085
Taylor Fair Grounds, Multi-purpose building, Hwy 64/ Hwy 13, Medford, WI 54451
Trempealeau Whitehall City Center, 18620 Hobson St., Whitehall, WI 54773
Vernon Viroqua High School, Commons Room, 100 Blackhawk Drive, Viroqua, WI 54665
Vilas St. Germain Elementary School, Gymnasium, 8234 Hwy 70 West, Saint Germain, WI 54558
Walworth Delavan-Darien High School, 150 Cummings St., Delavan, WI 53115
Washburn Spooner High School Auditorium, 801 County Highway A, Spooner, WI 54801
Washington Washington County Fair Park, 3000 Cty Hwy PV, West Bend, WI 53095
Waukesha Waukesha Co. Tech. College, Richard Anderson Ed. Center, 800 Main Street, Pewaukee, WI 53072
Waupaca Waupaca High School, PAC-Auditorium, E 2325 King Rd., Waupaca, WI 54981
Waushara Waushara County Courthouse, County Board Rm. 265, 209 S. St. Marie St., Wautoma, WI 54982
Winnebago Webster Stanley Middle School, Auditorium, 915 Hazel Street, Oshkosh, WI 54901
Wood Pittsville High School, Auditorium, 5407 1st Ave, Pittsville, WI 54466
TY4stroke Topic
On Frozen Lakes
Posted: April 4, 2012 in Uncategorized
Tags: WI DNR
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The WI DNR is proposing and endorsing a 25 mph speed limit restriction on all WI frozen lakes. This is on the agenda for their spring hearings being held in every county in the state on Monday, April 9th at 7:00 pm. See the locations and times posted below. The question #65 appears on page 25 of their questionaire as follows:
QUESTION 65. Create a maximum of 25 mph on Frozen Water (# 180311)
(requires legislation)
Winter outdoor recreation activities are increasing in popularity and there are a growing number of users on the frozen waters of the state. Anglers, snowmobilers, ATVers, cross-country skiers, ice skaters, and Wisconsinites of all ages are often found simultaneously enjoying the frozen waters of the state. Cars, trucks, snowmobiles, and ATV’s driving and riding on the frozen surface, can create safety hazards and issues for other users. Sometimes these vehicles are moving at high speeds and within close proximity to persons, other vehicles, or structures. Vehicles moving at high speeds also contribute to some degree to the deterioration of ice conditions due to the energy wave created under the surface of the ice. ATV’s and snowmobiles are currently required to slow to 10 mph on the ice when within 100 feet of a person not on a motorized vehicle or within 100 feet of an ice shanty. Speed limits for licensed motor vehicles (cars, trucks, etc) on the frozen waters of the state are not regulated on a statewide basis by state law and only some municipalities have local regulations. This proposal would create consistent regulations for all licensed motorized vehicles (cars, trucks, etc) on the frozen waters of the state.
Would you support legislation creating a maximum speed limit of 25 mph for all licensed motorized vehicles (cars, trucks, etc) travelling on frozen waters of the state unless on a designated state or club marked trail?
This will affect motorcycle ice riding, snowmobiles and atv’s. It will effectively ban any sport ice riding. If at all possible, show up at the meeting in your county and vote against this proposal. Check for your time and location on the list below:
Meeting Locations:
DNR Spring Hearings and Wisconsin Conservation Congress County Meeting
Monday, April 9, 2012, 7:00 p.m.
Adams Adams County Courthouse, County Board Room A230, 402 Main Street, Friendship, WI 53934
Ashland Ashland County Court House, Main Court Room, 201 Main Street West, Ashland, WI 54806
Barron Barron Government Center, Auditorium, 303 E. LaSalle Ave., Barron, WI 54812
Bayfield Bayfield County Courthouse, Upstairs, 117 E. 5th Street, Washburn, WI 54891
Brown Northeast Wisconsin Technical College (SC132), 2740 W. Mason St., Green Bay, WI 54313
Buffalo Alma High School Gymnasium, S1618 STH 35, Alma, WI 54610
Burnett Burnett County Government Center, Room 165, 7410 County Road K, Siren, WI 54872
Calumet Calumet County Courthouse, Rm. B025, 206 Court Street, Chilton, WI 53014
Chippewa Chippewa Falls Middle School, 750 Tropicana Blvd., Chippewa Falls, WI 54729
Clark Greenwood High School, 306 W. Central Ave., Greenwood, WI 54437
Columbia Wayne E. Bartels Middle School, Gymnasium, 2505 New Pinery Rd., Portage, WI 53901
Crawford Prairie du Chien High School, Auditorium, 800 E. Crawford St., Prairie du Chien, WI 53821
Dane Middleton Cross Plains Performing Arts Center, 2100 Bristol St., Middleton, WI 53562
Dodge Horicon International Education Center, Lower Level Auditorium, N7725 STH 28, Horicon, WI 53032
Door Crossroads at Big Creek, 2041 Michigan St., Sturgeon Bay, WI 54235
Douglas Brule Town Hall, 5820 S. Maple St., Brule, WI 54820
Dunn Dunn County Fish and Game Club, 1900 Pioneer Ave., Menomonie, WI 54751
Eau Claire South Middle School, Auditorium, 2115 Mitscher Ave., Eau Claire, WI 54701
Florence Florence Natural Resource Center, Basement Conference Rm., 5631 Forestry Dr., Florence, WI 54121
Fond du Lac Theisen Middle School, 525 E Pioneer Rd., Fond du Lac, Wisconsin 54935
Forest Crandon High School, Auditorium, 9750 US HWY 8 West, Crandon, WI 54520
Grant Youth and Agriculture Building Main Auditorium, 916 East Elm Street, Lancaster, WI 53813
Green Monroe Middle School, 1510 13th Avenue, Monroe, WI 53566
Green Lake Green Lake High School, Small Gym, 612 Mill St., Green Lake, WI 54941
Iowa Dodgeville High School, Gymnasium, 912 Chapel Street, Dodgeville, WI 53533
Iron Iron County Courthouse, 300 Taconite Street, Hurley, WI 54534
Jackson Black River Falls Middle School, LGI Room, 1202 Pierce Street, Black River Falls, WI 54615
Jefferson Jefferson County Fair Park Activity Center, 503 N. Jackson, Jefferson, WI 52549
Juneau Olson Middle School Auditorium, 508 Grayside Avenue, Mauston, WI 53948
Kenosha Bristol Elementary School, Gymnasium, 20121 83rd Street, Bristol, WI 53104
Kewaunee Kewaunee High School, Auditorium, 911 Third Street, Kewaunee, WI 54216
La Crosse Onalaska High School, Auditorium, 700 Hilltopper Place, Onalaska, WI 54650
Lafayette Darlington Elementary School, Large Group Room, 11630 Center Hill Road, Darlington, WI 53530
Langlade Antigo High School, Volm Theater, 1900 10th Ave., Antigo, WI 54409
Lincoln Tomahawk Elementary School, 1048 East King Road, Tomahawk, WI 54487
Manitowoc UW-Manitowoc, Auditorium, 705 Viebahn Street, Manitowoc, WI 54220
Marathon D.C. Everest Middle School, Auditorium, 9302 Schofield Avenue, Weston, WI 54476
Marinette Crivitz High School, Auditorium, 400 South Avenue, Crivitz, WI 54114
Marquette Montello High School Community Room, 222 Forest Lane, Montello, WI 53949
Menominee Menominee County Courthouse,W3269 Courthouse Lane, Keshena, WI 54135
Milwaukee Nathan Hale High School, Auditorium, 11601 W. Lincoln Ave., West Allis, WI 53227
Monroe Meadowview School, Cafetorium A103, 1225 N Water Street, Sparta, WI 54656
Oconto Suring High School, Cafeteria, 411 E Algoma St., Suring, WI 54174
Oneida Nicolet College, LRC Theatre, 5355 Campus Road, Rhinelander, WI 54501
Outagamie Riverview Middle School Auditorium, 101 Oak St., Kaukauna, WI 54130
Ozaukee Cedarburg Cultural Center, W62 N546 Washington Avenue, Cedarburg, WI 53012
Pepin Pepin County Government Center, County Board Room, 740 7th Ave. West, Durand, WI 54736
Pierce Ellsworth Senior High School, Auditorium, 323 Hillcrest, Ellsworth, WI 54011
Polk Unity High School/Unity Community Ed., Auditorium, 1908 150th St. Hwy 46, Balsam Lake, WI 54810
Portage Ben Franklin Junior High School Auditorium, 2000 Polk St., Stevens Point, WI 54481
Price Price County Courthouse, Board Room, 126 Cherry St., Phillips, WI 54555
Racine Union Grove High School, Performance Arts Center, 3433 S. Colony Ave., Union Grove, WI 53182
Richland Richland County Courthouse, Upstairs Courtroom, 181 West Seminary, Richland Center, WI 53581
Rock Pontiac Convention Center, 2809 N Pontiac Dr., Janesville, WI 53545
Rusk Ladysmith High School, Auditorium, 1700 E. Edgewood Ave., Ladysmith, WI 54848
Saint Croix St Croix Central High School, Commons, 1751 Broadway St., Hammond, WI 54015
Sauk UW Baraboo Campus, Lecture Hall A-4, 1006 Connie Road, Baraboo, WI 53913
Sawyer Winter High School, 6585W Grove Street, Winter, WI 54896
Shawano Shawano Middle School, LGI Room, 1050 S. Union St., Shawano, WI 54166
Sheboygan Sheboygan Falls High School, Auditorium, 220 Amherst Ave., Sheboygan Falls, WI 53085
Taylor Fair Grounds, Multi-purpose building, Hwy 64/ Hwy 13, Medford, WI 54451
Trempealeau Whitehall City Center, 18620 Hobson St., Whitehall, WI 54773
Vernon Viroqua High School, Commons Room, 100 Blackhawk Drive, Viroqua, WI 54665
Vilas St. Germain Elementary School, Gymnasium, 8234 Hwy 70 West, Saint Germain, WI 54558
Walworth Delavan-Darien High School, 150 Cummings St., Delavan, WI 53115
Washburn Spooner High School Auditorium, 801 County Highway A, Spooner, WI 54801
Washington Washington County Fair Park, 3000 Cty Hwy PV, West Bend, WI 53095
Waukesha Waukesha Co. Tech. College, Richard Anderson Ed. Center, 800 Main Street, Pewaukee, WI 53072
Waupaca Waupaca High School, PAC-Auditorium, E 2325 King Rd., Waupaca, WI 54981
Waushara Waushara County Courthouse, County Board Rm. 265, 209 S. St. Marie St., Wautoma, WI 54982
Winnebago Webster Stanley Middle School, Auditorium, 915 Hazel Street, Oshkosh, WI 54901
Wood Pittsville High School, Auditorium, 5407 1st Ave, Pittsville, WI 54466
opsled
Active member
Yes I have. Yes I went. Yes I voted NO!!!
There was a total of 91 questions on the ballot. Most had to deal with fishing, hunting, trapping, etc. These were all advisory questions that the DNR could persue if they wanted to. They were looking for public imput on all of them.
We have to be carful and show up to these types of meeting to have our voice heard. Most of what the DNR deals with is wildlife management and related issues. Most that show up to meetings like this are hunters, fisherman, etc.
The DNR does however control snowmobiling rules, regulations and such too. Many sledders don't hunt or fish and pay little attention to things like this but hunters and fisherman pay great attention. It would be very easy to have the wants of ice fisherman dictate speed limits of snowmobiles if knowone else showed up.
At our meeting here in Racine co there three citisens that spoke on this question. None were in favor. That's good.
My comment was this,,,
"I feel this question is so ambiguous in comparison to all the other questions we are voting on tonight that I fell it has no place in even being on the ballot. It's reasons expressed in it's language are at best vague half truths and at worst intentionally missleading and self serving. It's potential to be overreaching and harmful to many involved in the sport of snowmobiling is HUGE!! I urge all to vote no on this question."
I got nods from the board and had the impression they felt the same way.
Hope it dies there but a close watch need to be taken to make sure.
opsled
There was a total of 91 questions on the ballot. Most had to deal with fishing, hunting, trapping, etc. These were all advisory questions that the DNR could persue if they wanted to. They were looking for public imput on all of them.
We have to be carful and show up to these types of meeting to have our voice heard. Most of what the DNR deals with is wildlife management and related issues. Most that show up to meetings like this are hunters, fisherman, etc.
The DNR does however control snowmobiling rules, regulations and such too. Many sledders don't hunt or fish and pay little attention to things like this but hunters and fisherman pay great attention. It would be very easy to have the wants of ice fisherman dictate speed limits of snowmobiles if knowone else showed up.
At our meeting here in Racine co there three citisens that spoke on this question. None were in favor. That's good.
My comment was this,,,
"I feel this question is so ambiguous in comparison to all the other questions we are voting on tonight that I fell it has no place in even being on the ballot. It's reasons expressed in it's language are at best vague half truths and at worst intentionally missleading and self serving. It's potential to be overreaching and harmful to many involved in the sport of snowmobiling is HUGE!! I urge all to vote no on this question."
I got nods from the board and had the impression they felt the same way.
Hope it dies there but a close watch need to be taken to make sure.
opsled
TopGunnSrx
New member
This needs to read by ALL persons who participate in winter and summer motorsport activities. None of this would be an issue if you didnt have those who lack common desency and respect for others.
Vote is NO... way to close, see number 65:
http://dnr.wi.gov/org/nrboard/congress/spring_hearings/2012/ResultsStatewide.pdf
http://dnr.wi.gov/org/nrboard/congress/spring_hearings/2012/ResultsStatewide.pdf
sleddineinar
VIP Member
GEEZ!! and I thought going 50mph here in Minnesota was a joke...
bluemonster1
LIFE MEMBER ONLY ONCE!!!
on a Lake should not be under 70 mph anywhere...