Hey guys new here, Just bought a 91 Phazer 2 for $500
I've herd from someone that knows someone with a phazer 2 about changing the secondary spring rates. He said that if i take apart the secondary there will be a 1,2,3 and/or a A,B,C setting that i can rotate and it will change the speed or the torque of the sled. Does anyone know about this?
Thanks
I've herd from someone that knows someone with a phazer 2 about changing the secondary spring rates. He said that if i take apart the secondary there will be a 1,2,3 and/or a A,B,C setting that i can rotate and it will change the speed or the torque of the sled. Does anyone know about this?
Thanks
Yep that's how it works. Changes the effective spring tension/rate of twist which changes the rate of the shift.
thefullmonte
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What are you hoping to accomplish? That is always the first question.
The secondary is more accurately a torque converter. It senses what the primary clutch wants it to do and it also senses what the track (load) is doing.
If you increase spring tension you will have more resistance to up shifting. And more sensitivity to torque sensing. This works well for deep snow riding where you need to maintain RPM in heavy load conditions. It will also react quicker when you let off the throttle. Many refer to this as back shifting. Again, better in deep snow where you are on and off the throttle more often.
Less tension allows the secondary to open more easily. Giving a much faster up shift. This often gives better acceleration and top speed. More of a lake racing setup where you don't care about back shifting.
Most setups fall somewhere in the middle as most things with clutching are a compromise. Hope that helps.
The secondary is more accurately a torque converter. It senses what the primary clutch wants it to do and it also senses what the track (load) is doing.
If you increase spring tension you will have more resistance to up shifting. And more sensitivity to torque sensing. This works well for deep snow riding where you need to maintain RPM in heavy load conditions. It will also react quicker when you let off the throttle. Many refer to this as back shifting. Again, better in deep snow where you are on and off the throttle more often.
Less tension allows the secondary to open more easily. Giving a much faster up shift. This often gives better acceleration and top speed. More of a lake racing setup where you don't care about back shifting.
Most setups fall somewhere in the middle as most things with clutching are a compromise. Hope that helps.
ill probably be looking for the best acceleration, do you know what number and letter combination i should set it for?
post up what setting it is now along with the spring color and i can maybe give you a few options.
theres not really a pattern, per say, the initial wrap is based mostly on spring color due to the location of the spring tabs.
in a nutshell, C is usually softest, B is stiffest, and A is medium. depending on spring, twist usually increases with higher numbers. confused yet?
example: lets say your using a pink spring. A1=20*, A2=50, A-3=80
the more twist, the slower the shift and the more rpm before shift. basically your degree or angle is how far your twisting the helix before it clears the ramps, base on a circle being 360 degrees.
theres a fine line between shifting too quick and keeping the rpms where they need to be. too bad those secondaries are a pain to adjust.
theres not really a pattern, per say, the initial wrap is based mostly on spring color due to the location of the spring tabs.
in a nutshell, C is usually softest, B is stiffest, and A is medium. depending on spring, twist usually increases with higher numbers. confused yet?
example: lets say your using a pink spring. A1=20*, A2=50, A-3=80
the more twist, the slower the shift and the more rpm before shift. basically your degree or angle is how far your twisting the helix before it clears the ramps, base on a circle being 360 degrees.
theres a fine line between shifting too quick and keeping the rpms where they need to be. too bad those secondaries are a pain to adjust.
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No kidding! Especially if you don't have the right tools anymore.snowdad4 said:
