I just about stole an 01 SX700R from a seller on Friday night. Sled looks good, runs good, and rides and handles well. I realize that with every used machine there will be a few gremlins, and some have popped up. For this reason, I have ordered a service manual, and it should be here in a few days, but until it's arrival, I have some questions where to begin.
My main objective of getting a 2001 was for the better headlight, and separate hand and thumb warmers. Ironically, that is what is giving me the trouble. I have done a search here and not really encountered anything like I'm experiencing.
Here's what's going on:
Saturday night, we went out ripping around and all was well, except that the warmers were exceptionally weak. Turned all the way to high, and left there. Nothing at idle, but after a few miles working the machine, I could feel some heat, but was unsure that it was the warmers, or residual heat from my hands. Certainly not overpowering by any means. I had good gloves on so it's not the end of the world.
We stopped someplace to eat, and when we went out and fired up the machines, I had no headlight for about 15 seconds. It was idling pretty low at first, and when idle came up a little, so did the headlight. Still the same deal with the warmers, but no more lip from the headlight the rest of the night. I even started it up again when we got back, and no problem.
Sunday, we went riding again. Fired it up and warmed it up. No headlight issue as it idled, but my buddy's 2000 sitting right next to mine, and idling for maybe 30 seconds less than mine, had flaming hot, grips and thumb warmer on about 3/4 of level on the knob, where I had nothing on high. I read in another post that it has to hit 4000 RPM to start to heat on the 2001? His 2000 gets hot at idle, and mine shouldn't?
As we rode, same story again with my warmers, not much, if anything. I was riding pretty hard and didn't have much need, but warmers still would be nice. Then, out of the blue, we started riding a trail taking us up, and over a mountain, and the grips got stupid hot on high to where I had to turn it down, but just on throttle side which I found a little strange. Brake side was comfortable. Still didn't notice anything on the flipper.
Wore different gloves yesterday than I did Saturday with a worn palm on the right hand, but why was it painful on the right hand, but not the left?
The headlight thing on Saturday I can understand as it was idling very low for a bit. The grip and thumb thing seem strange. If the grips are wired in series, why would one get hotter than the other? I would assume that having a different rheostat, the thumb warmer is on it's own circuit and that could be a different issue all together right?
Any ideas where to start?
I can wait for an $18 book that I can take with, me over an $80 download from Yamaha on my computer that stays at home. My machine isn't home, but I'm headed over to where it is later today, or tomorrow. Manual should be here within a couple of days, but I guess I'm looking for a little guidance as to where to begin until the book gets here.
Thanks,
~G.D.
My main objective of getting a 2001 was for the better headlight, and separate hand and thumb warmers. Ironically, that is what is giving me the trouble. I have done a search here and not really encountered anything like I'm experiencing.
Here's what's going on:
Saturday night, we went out ripping around and all was well, except that the warmers were exceptionally weak. Turned all the way to high, and left there. Nothing at idle, but after a few miles working the machine, I could feel some heat, but was unsure that it was the warmers, or residual heat from my hands. Certainly not overpowering by any means. I had good gloves on so it's not the end of the world.
We stopped someplace to eat, and when we went out and fired up the machines, I had no headlight for about 15 seconds. It was idling pretty low at first, and when idle came up a little, so did the headlight. Still the same deal with the warmers, but no more lip from the headlight the rest of the night. I even started it up again when we got back, and no problem.
Sunday, we went riding again. Fired it up and warmed it up. No headlight issue as it idled, but my buddy's 2000 sitting right next to mine, and idling for maybe 30 seconds less than mine, had flaming hot, grips and thumb warmer on about 3/4 of level on the knob, where I had nothing on high. I read in another post that it has to hit 4000 RPM to start to heat on the 2001? His 2000 gets hot at idle, and mine shouldn't?
As we rode, same story again with my warmers, not much, if anything. I was riding pretty hard and didn't have much need, but warmers still would be nice. Then, out of the blue, we started riding a trail taking us up, and over a mountain, and the grips got stupid hot on high to where I had to turn it down, but just on throttle side which I found a little strange. Brake side was comfortable. Still didn't notice anything on the flipper.
Wore different gloves yesterday than I did Saturday with a worn palm on the right hand, but why was it painful on the right hand, but not the left?
The headlight thing on Saturday I can understand as it was idling very low for a bit. The grip and thumb thing seem strange. If the grips are wired in series, why would one get hotter than the other? I would assume that having a different rheostat, the thumb warmer is on it's own circuit and that could be a different issue all together right?
Any ideas where to start?
I can wait for an $18 book that I can take with, me over an $80 download from Yamaha on my computer that stays at home. My machine isn't home, but I'm headed over to where it is later today, or tomorrow. Manual should be here within a couple of days, but I guess I'm looking for a little guidance as to where to begin until the book gets here.
Thanks,
~G.D.
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grips are easily checked with a ohm meter, your 2001 gets it grip power from the cdi and is completely differnt set up then the 2000 and older which were the single bulb 175watt systems, those ones were WAY hotter no doubt. Your sled runs on dc current where the old ones are ac current. I would check the grips and see if they are the same and if the connectors under the handlebar pad are in good shape.
As for the headlight, it is supposed to be delayed a slight bit, the 3d ign. system uses the relay to give all the power from the staotr to the ign. system so it starts easier and then the relay kicks on the headlight. When it gets really cold out sometimes the light wont come on for about 30-50 seconds, but usually its the headlight and load relays just needs to be put on your house heat register overnight to dry out any moisture in them.
As for the headlight, it is supposed to be delayed a slight bit, the 3d ign. system uses the relay to give all the power from the staotr to the ign. system so it starts easier and then the relay kicks on the headlight. When it gets really cold out sometimes the light wont come on for about 30-50 seconds, but usually its the headlight and load relays just needs to be put on your house heat register overnight to dry out any moisture in them.
Ok thanks. Glad the headlight is normal.
When we can move things into my buddy's garage, I'll tear off the pad and see what's what.
For a machine that supposedly lived inside a garage all it's life there is moisture inside the gauges. Lived close to water though. Maybe there is a corrosion issue on the connectors too? That would be a nice easy fix.
Great machine so far other than the warmers issue. Not sure if it's got enough pull corner to corner for me though. Maybe Turk's clutching is in order over the summer?
When we can move things into my buddy's garage, I'll tear off the pad and see what's what.
For a machine that supposedly lived inside a garage all it's life there is moisture inside the gauges. Lived close to water though. Maybe there is a corrosion issue on the connectors too? That would be a nice easy fix.
Great machine so far other than the warmers issue. Not sure if it's got enough pull corner to corner for me though. Maybe Turk's clutching is in order over the summer?