Skid, where to start first?

jaws jr

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Finally got a chance to ride another yammie on the trails out here(00 mm 700) and compared to my 98 srx 700 the front end felt very planted. Mine likes to dart or follow other tracks at cruising speeds. I just put on 8 inch carbides at the end of last year, run 1 and 1/4 non studded track, adjustable transfer rods and ohlins up front. High tourist area so the trails really get pounded on the weekends so i have my suspension set stiffer. hardly any ski lift on accel, so i think my transfer is right, trails are tight and twisty out here. Do i start with softening my center spring, or adjusting limiter straps? when on the gas i can pretty much put it where i want, just cruising speeds i cant hold a line.
 

8 in is too mutch carbide for this sled,If you have any play in the bars at all it makes for a rotton ride.6 IN is what most use and that is more than these sleds came with new.

You have adjustments use them.Let the limiters right off so the nuts almost at the end of its travel lock it down and put your q rods on full gap than go out and try it.You can allways adjust it back but now you will know what the easy adjustments will do.

If the front shock springs were never adjusted when the larger track was put on you will have alot more pressure on the centre shock as well.


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You are going to have to learn what the adjustments do.
Like bluewho said, let the limiter straps off. Check what yamaha specs out from new and check where you are at. By letting them off, you are letting the front(center) shock lift the front of the machine more. This will take some weight OFF of the skis and make the machine more stable. The center shock spring typically has no preload on it but you could give it some if you don't get the reults.

This is just a start. I have a viper rear suspension and FINALLy this year I have it handling really good.

Oh, and if you put your little sister on it.....your suspension setting will NOT work good for someone that weighs a whole lot different.
 
Sounds like your set up is close to mine. No ski lift and alot of carbide, stiff in the rear, plenty of ski pressure.
Great for the bush where you dont notice the darting, but scary on well used straight runs. Always feels like your going to get ripped off the trail at any second.
Get your toe set as close to 1/16-1/8 out as you can. You need a long straight edge and a glass flat floor to nail it.
Also, put a wedge in the heel of your ski mount block. I have 3/16 of an inch and it made a world of difference. It lifts your ski points and reduces darting.
 
X2 on 8" too much for unstudded track, this alone could cause darting. X2 on checking ski alingment as well, MAKE SURE YOU reproduce YOUR weight on sled while doing this! Betheviper has a "how to" link in his signature cover the whole process.
 
Darting

If you have the stock skis change them out for some C&A's. Night and day difference. Or find some MM Skis. I heard they handle real well. The stock SRX skis are very aggressive and and love to dart around.
 
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I have srx skis on my viper and love the razor sharp handling of them.
They did dart a lot until I got propper toe out.
 
And here i thought i was doing good, picked up 2 sets of 8 and a set of 10 carbides still in the package for 90$ last winter. 95rxl650 how does your sled ride now? i did mess with toe in last weekend, so i'll try the limiters before heading out today, as always thanks for the responses guys.
 
jaws jr said:
And here i thought i was doing good, picked up 2 sets of 8 and a set of 10 carbides still in the package for 90$ last winter. 95rxl650 how does your sled ride now? i did mess with toe in last weekend, so i'll try the limiters before heading out today, as always thanks for the responses guys.

Its a balancing act so to speak. I run 6" on the unstudded 1 1/2 camoplast 01 srx 700, 8" on both the 00/99 srx 700's with 1" HEAVILY studded tracks.
 
Letting the straps out will make you lighter on the front end. Depends on your riding style weather that translates to a good or bad thing. Bad for me.
My sled was night and day better with the shims and toe, but first ride out I bounced off a fence post at high speed in a bend. I adjusted it again and again, but gave up. My favorite riding has me bouncing of things alot. In the bush I dont care where the toe is because I dont notice it. The railbed scares the shyte out of me though. Fields are fine because the front end is always light and there's no tree's 6 feet either side of me. lol
Shims made the biggest difference of all the adjusting I've done.
 
95rxl650 said:
Letting the straps out will make you lighter on the front end. Depends on your riding style weather that translates to a good or bad thing. Bad for me.
My sled was night and day better with the shims and toe, but first ride out I bounced off a fence post at high speed in a bend. I adjusted it again and again, but gave up. My favorite riding has me bouncing of things alot. In the bush I dont care where the toe is because I dont notice it. The railbed scares the shyte out of me though. Fields are fine because the front end is always light and there's no tree's 6 feet either side of me. lol
Shims made the biggest difference of all the adjusting I've done.


Lol, I find rail beds boring after awhile I can hold it at 190kph and it stays smooth and planted the whole way.
 
loosened up my limiter straps( have about 7 threads left to go) helped some, but gonna kick the mustang out of the garage and try the shim the skies this week.
 
Yep, railbeds are like watching paint dry and I dread running them. Unfortunately, there are a plenty of them around here and they are unavoidable. We had to get home suddenly last night and ran them for an extended period. I got up around 150km a few times and seriously shyte my pants. Next season will see some kind of change to my steering just for the tracks alone.
Jaw's... I just jacked my sled up one day before we headed out., popped the ski's off and took them in the shop. Had some plexi laying around and cut 2 pieces 1x3" I think? Predrilled the both the spacer and the ski block, siliconed the plexi down and screwed them on. Back on the sled and off to the trails in about 45 minutes. Had to tinker with jack height and pry bars to get the ski bolts back in. Got the holes close and applied the BFH to the job. lol
 


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