Will the gearing in the 2002 viper work fine on a stock 1999 vmax 700?
so basically if I take my viper reverse kit and put it on a 99 vmax 700 will it perform right?
Thanks in advance
so basically if I take my viper reverse kit and put it on a 99 vmax 700 will it perform right?
Thanks in advance
The viper has 22/38 gearing
And the 99 700 has 20/41 without reverse and 23/39 with reverse from factory
And the 99 700 has 20/41 without reverse and 23/39 with reverse from factory
Devilin AblueDress!
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O2viper700 said:
Loosely running the numbers threw my head it seems like it would be doggy on bottom but should haul on the top end. I may be wrong but cant you use the gears in the non-reverse case in the reverse case? Are these verifed numbers or just what the spec pages list?
Devilin AblueDress! said:
These are what specs say on this site.
what he should have in the 99 vmax 700 right now 20/41 70L chain
My reverse kit has 68 link chain.
so can someone verify if I can use is gears and chain in this kit?
Anyone? Sorry for being impatient but the guy wants to come today to pickup the reverse,but I don't want to sell it to him not knowing if it will perform properly
The SXs have the "NON-HYVO" gears and chains.
The 2000+ SRXs and Vipers have the HYVO gears and chains.
The Hyvo gears and chains will fit on the SXs but the hyvo and non hyvo parts can not be mixed together...all one type only.
The 2000+ SRXs and Vipers have the HYVO gears and chains.
The Hyvo gears and chains will fit on the SXs but the hyvo and non hyvo parts can not be mixed together...all one type only.
Devilin AblueDress!
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sideshowBob said:
This is what comes in there when new. We all know stuff gets swapped around, some times on purpose and other times stuff gets slapped together. That is why I ask verified or per spec pages. Entirely possible the SX non-hyvos have ben swapped out for hyvo gears. We can give specific answers based on spec sheets but if they have already ben changed info is 50/50 chances of right or wrong.
What if I just put the complete viper reverse kit on.
I think it should be fine
I think it should be fine
O2viper700 said:
Absolutely...just don't mix and match the parts.
I have Mountain Viper reverse kits on two of my 99 SXs...direct bolt on.
sideshowBob said:
Perfect, that's what I wanted to hear!
I just didn't want to sell the kit to a guy and find out his sled doesn't perform right because of the gearing.
Thanks
O2viper700 said:
O2viper700 said:
I'd still verify the actual gearing that is in each chaincase. Based on your info above, if your reverse setup is 38/22 (1.73), and his Vmax setup is 41/20 (2.05), the sled will perform differently, as Devilin alluded to.
That said, I wouldn't think that 41/20 gearing would have come stock in a Vmax700. I would expect something closer to the 1.73 - 1.80 ish ratio. Maybe it has been changed out in the past, for quicker acceleration.
It also seems odd that a the 99 700's would have such a wide range of ratios from non-reverse 41/20 (2.05), to reverse 39/23 (1.70). Is the 2.05 for a mountain sled?
All of this tells me to verify the specs based on the actual sled model, but even more importantly verify what is actually in each chaincase, else there is no way to tell what the difference in performance may be. With reverse gears, I don't think there are too many options for the lower gear tooth count since it is unique to the reverse setup. The top gear will offer more tooth count choices since it interchanges between reverse and non-reverse. Changing gears may necessitate a change chain length as well, and in any case keep all gears/chain in a set (all HYVO or all non-HYVO) as sideshow mentioned.
srx700c said:
For gearing numbers I'm just going with what I found in the tech section.
now I could be wrong...
But 20/41 gearing has a total of 61 teeth
22/38 has 60 teeth
And 23/39 has 62 teeth
Would that mean that thes ratios are all sorta similar?
Wait that was a stupid statement...lol
That doesn't make any sense
That doesn't make any sense
Nope, it doesn't. Nice thought though.
Verify what you actually have in the cases, and go from there.
Verify what you actually have in the cases, and go from there.
Devilin AblueDress!
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Total teeth count has lil to nothing to do with it. The drive gear count versus the driven gear count is what makes the differance. Additional teeth on top (drive gear) will give a higher top speed but less power at take off. Additional teeth on the bottom gear (driven) will lower top speed but give you more torque in the bottom. Add to the differance in gearing, differance in clutch weights(style&weight) and whats the helix angles for viper versus sx as well as horse power/torque of engines. May work fine, May be an epic failure. For example think about the sprockets on a 10 speed bike.