I will never jump ship from Yamaha, but quite possibly jump into the 4 stroke field. It is not like we need another sled, but...... I really like the new Viper. Wow! Al
Suprx125
New member
They are sweet, but I can't justify the price. I'll wait a few years until they come down in price and they get the bugs worked out. I'll probably end up buying a nytro before then though.
TopGunnSrx
New member
You wont want to ride the others after you get that new one and get used to it.
bluemonster1
LIFE MEMBER ONLY ONCE!!!
it will still have some Cat parts in it,and that is enough to scare me plus price is to high.It will never be a true Yamaha.If the new Vipers incorporate the Cat chaincase..you will be blowing belts every couple of rides not to mention chaincase parts..I would wait a few years until all the bugs are ironed out.Cat still has not come to the table and found a solution to their Cat models that are costing guys mega bucks just in belt replacements..and they have issues with tunnels buckling ... 
Suprx125
New member
bluemonster1 said:
x2
From what I've read, Yamaha quality control made MANY changes ( gear-case included, Yamaha clutching, etc), so we shall see....!!!!
Suprx125
New member
Lets hope so...maybe Artic Crap took some notes.
staggs65
Moderator
The Vipers have the Yamaha clutches. it's the cat clutching blowing the belts not the chaincase, although the chaincase had it's own host of problems.
opsled
Active member
An opportunity to be a Guinea Pig??
Good Luck,,
opsled
Good Luck,,
opsled
bluemonster1
LIFE MEMBER ONLY ONCE!!!
hope they changed tunnels as well.I know of a guy out here that had his tunnel replaced 3 times last season,it just plain buckled with the snow build up, Now if Yamaha is using their engine,their clutching,chaincase and maybe one day the tunnel..then why are they associated with Cat then??? Just build the Viper at the Yamaha plant...just my take on it.I myself would not buy one..I will be watching to see this winter how the new Vipers hold up..
I will say I sure do love my 4 stroke... Apex that is. I have yet to ride my Nytro XTX. But I'm still riding the older 4 strokers, none of this Viper thing. I honestly think the whole Viper deal is bittersweet.
Honestly I believe both Yamaha and Arctic Cat needed something like this. Do I agree with it completely, no. But when you have an Arctic Cat guy that was hoping they would have gotten Yamaha clutches on everything, you know even the Cat guys aren't completely happy. Me personally, I think Cat does have a better chassis, stock skid especially... but for overall durability and longevity no, IMO.
With that said I see Yamaha and Arctic Cat both learning something from each other. Come 2018 (Yamaha's 50th Anniversary) I think (and hope) they will be back on seperate paths.
Honestly I believe both Yamaha and Arctic Cat needed something like this. Do I agree with it completely, no. But when you have an Arctic Cat guy that was hoping they would have gotten Yamaha clutches on everything, you know even the Cat guys aren't completely happy. Me personally, I think Cat does have a better chassis, stock skid especially... but for overall durability and longevity no, IMO.
With that said I see Yamaha and Arctic Cat both learning something from each other. Come 2018 (Yamaha's 50th Anniversary) I think (and hope) they will be back on seperate paths.