im looking to get more bottom end out of my 98 600 twin even if it cost top end.
i am very familiar with 2 stroke engines i have been riding drag quads most of my life and never had a shop do my work except for porting. i know the sled game is completely different because of the varying drive ratio. on my atvs ex.
my trail banshee had a 421 big bore and as some of you might know those are out of the box dune/drag cylinders, but the company that made those offered the same cylind with a lower port timing. the same effect would be achieved by removing around 4mm of the bottom of the cylinder. thats what was done before the low end kit was available.
now on the snowmobiles i know a huge amount of your power range relies on the clutching.
i want to get as much bottom end out of this sled as i can top speed is not a concern as this is my mess around on my property sled. i picked up a sxr for my take on long trips sled. so like stated i want more bottom end even if it means losing most of my speed. id imagine this isnt the best sled for that but i like the way this one handles in drifts and jumping.
i weigh 130lbs so suspension doesnt really affect me n any negative ways.
i am very familiar with 2 stroke engines i have been riding drag quads most of my life and never had a shop do my work except for porting. i know the sled game is completely different because of the varying drive ratio. on my atvs ex.
my trail banshee had a 421 big bore and as some of you might know those are out of the box dune/drag cylinders, but the company that made those offered the same cylind with a lower port timing. the same effect would be achieved by removing around 4mm of the bottom of the cylinder. thats what was done before the low end kit was available.
now on the snowmobiles i know a huge amount of your power range relies on the clutching.
i want to get as much bottom end out of this sled as i can top speed is not a concern as this is my mess around on my property sled. i picked up a sxr for my take on long trips sled. so like stated i want more bottom end even if it means losing most of my speed. id imagine this isnt the best sled for that but i like the way this one handles in drifts and jumping.
i weigh 130lbs so suspension doesnt really affect me n any negative ways.
im thinking about getting a taller track. what is the biggest lug track i can fit under this sled with out studs. i understand i need different drivers.
mrviper700
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gear it down then. go smaller top sprocket and or bigger bottom sprocket in the chaincase, will change it drasticly to more low/midrange power.
i have a smaller top sprocket but my problem now is traction. my track is in horrible condition stock track worn down to about 1/2 inch with 144 studs. so i plan on going to a 1 1/4 track.mrviper700 said:gear it down then. go smaller top sprocket and or bigger bottom sprocket in the chaincase, will change it drasticly to more low/midrange power.
the places i ride would be on the saginaw/ bay city BAY with about an average 3-6 inch base and anything from 8 inch to 4 foot drifts. it wont see a consistant amount of snow so im looking for a track that will not tear the lugs in shallow riding areas yet still get good traction in the drifts. would the ice ripper be a good track seeing how they say its a ripsaw design but pre studded?
coryv4 said:the places i ride would be on the saginaw/ bay city BAY with about an average 3-6 inch base and anything from 8 inch to 4 foot drifts.
Sounds like somebody has been riding the Saginaw river system!?!?! haha only did once, myself, and didnt get far. Hooters south to the Saginaw/Titabawasee split, and then open water....should have seen it coming once we realized there were no more shantys left for the last mile! lol Did hit some of the rivers that cut off of the Saginaw river. Took the one that brings you to Bay Rd and 75, and also the Cheboyganing(i think) that takes you back to Indiantown? Got about 85 miles in, in about 3 hours of riding.
Good luck with the track choice, and maybe we'll run into each other on the river!
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mrviper700
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coryv4 said:i have a smaller top sprocket but my problem now is traction. my track is in horrible condition stock track worn down to about 1/2 inch with 144 studs. so i plan on going to a 1 1/4 track.
the places i ride would be on the saginaw/ bay city BAY with about an average 3-6 inch base and anything from 8 inch to 4 foot drifts. it wont see a consistant amount of snow so im looking for a track that will not tear the lugs in shallow riding areas yet still get good traction in the drifts. would the ice ripper be a good track seeing how they say its a ripsaw design but pre studded?
lol, well you cant have it all, it doesnt exist. To get more low and midrange your gonna have more traction problems with snow because your multiplying the torq transferred to the track.
I would say you should lean more towards a real studded 1.25" track then, the ones with built in studs in the lugs are not too hot, they barely scratch the ice.
i just figured the built in studs would help prevent the lugs from tearing ya know kinda like concrete with re-rod.mrviper700 said:lol, well you cant have it all, it doesnt exist. To get more low and midrange your gonna have more traction problems with snow because your multiplying the torq transferred to the track.
I would say you should lean more towards a real studded 1.25" track then, the ones with built in studs in the lugs are not too hot, they barely scratch the ice.
haha. i dont venture to far down the rivers. i launch out by quanicassee and play around there most of the time. farthest ive gone on sag river is hooters and castaways.Sno-Xr said:Sounds like somebody has been riding the Saginaw river system!?!?! haha only did once, myself, and didnt get far. Hooters south to the Saginaw/Titabawasee split, and then open water....should have seen it coming once we realized there were no more shantys left for the last mile! lol Did hit some of the rivers that cut off of the Saginaw river. Took the one that brings you to Bay Rd and 75, and also the Cheboyganing(i think) that takes you back to Indiantown? Got about 85 miles in, in about 3 hours of riding.
Good luck with the track choice, and maybe we'll run into each other on the river!
Vmaxin
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Adjustable transfer rods. This will give you a lot more squat to the rear. Or just a different skid all together. If your clutching and gearing is good... That's your next step.