So I bought a second 01 sxr700 a couple weeks ago. Ran great when I bought it (with 125 psi in each cylinder). Idled really well, drove it on the lawn a couple feet and loaded it on my trailer. With a couple stops/starts in between. Started it last week in the shed, ran OK.
This weekend, I siphoned out the gas from the tank and poured in fresh premium with stabil. After that, started it to get fresh gas through system. Ran a little rough for about a 1 minute and stalled. Now I can't get it started. While checking things out, I noticed the inline fuel filter is mounted outside the tank. Its in the engine compartment to the right of the airbox (looking at the sled), above the belt shroud. My other sxr700 has that filter inside the tank I imagine. Also, there is no fuel in the filter, hence why it won't start. Poured a little premix into cylinders and ran for 3 seconds and stalled. Pulled about 20 times and gave up. Has anyone heard of the filter being mounted outside the tank? Its mounted higher then the tank, would this cause priming problems?
I plan on taking both my sleds in for a carb cleaning/tune up in the next couple weeks, so I'm sure the tech will figure it out.. But would like some heads up beforehand.
Thanks!
This weekend, I siphoned out the gas from the tank and poured in fresh premium with stabil. After that, started it to get fresh gas through system. Ran a little rough for about a 1 minute and stalled. Now I can't get it started. While checking things out, I noticed the inline fuel filter is mounted outside the tank. Its in the engine compartment to the right of the airbox (looking at the sled), above the belt shroud. My other sxr700 has that filter inside the tank I imagine. Also, there is no fuel in the filter, hence why it won't start. Poured a little premix into cylinders and ran for 3 seconds and stalled. Pulled about 20 times and gave up. Has anyone heard of the filter being mounted outside the tank? Its mounted higher then the tank, would this cause priming problems?
I plan on taking both my sleds in for a carb cleaning/tune up in the next couple weeks, so I'm sure the tech will figure it out.. But would like some heads up beforehand.
Thanks!
The under hood filter was added by someone.
If you're more than a month away from riding I'd dump the fuel you just added - into your car/truck.
Read/search carb cleaning 101 by Mr. Viper and do it yourself. Save time, money and your new knowledge about carbs and time spent under the hood may come in handy on the trail. If you can pull a plug and prime it without blowing the can you past the test. Did you taste any fuel when you drained the tank?
No, you say? you're an expert!
Splash a gallon or so in the tank to test your new skills and check for leaks. If you're still more than a month away, drain the float bowls. Seems required here in S.E. Michigan with or without treatment... although I haven't tried them all.
I'd suggest waiting to buy fuel until you're ready to ride... The fresher the better for the first ride.
And depending on the tempurature - it takes me one to three applications of premixandtug before it'll stay lit.
With an inline filter, it may take an additional application or two... dunno. The oem filter is in the tank attached to the end of the floating fuel line. Floating meaning loose and on the bottom.
roudyroy1
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how much fuel did you put in?... maybe not enough. is the in tank filter sill there? go fish it out with some clothes hanger and see. it acts as a weighted pickup and keeps the line in the fuel
I added maybe about a 1 - 1 1/2 gallons after I siphoned it out (with a hand pump;-)
I actually wanted to restart it, to get fresh/treated gas through the carbs and then refog for a couple months.
I looked at the how to's on cleaning carbs.. Doesn't seem that bad. Its the removing of everything that has me a worried.
I also wanted a pro to go over everything because its a new to me sled... Once it has a clean bill of health, I don't mind trying some DIY fixes next season. I did buy a service manual so I can get familiar with certain thinks.
Thanks everyone.
I actually wanted to restart it, to get fresh/treated gas through the carbs and then refog for a couple months.
I looked at the how to's on cleaning carbs.. Doesn't seem that bad. Its the removing of everything that has me a worried.
I also wanted a pro to go over everything because its a new to me sled... Once it has a clean bill of health, I don't mind trying some DIY fixes next season. I did buy a service manual so I can get familiar with certain thinks.
Thanks everyone.
roudyroy1
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you should always clean carbs, every year. its not bad at all, once you get used to doing it you can take them off, clean and put back on in like 30 mins. there nothing to it. if you need help just ask. might want to try a bit more fuel by the way.
If you have experience with your tech and are confident in his abilities that sounds like a good plan. I only mention this because my experience with sled dealers is that they scrape the bottom of the barrel when it comes to hiring qualified techs. Point being is that the "pro" you think you're handing your sled over to may not be.
With a genuine Yamaha service manual and basic hand tools you can service most everything on your sled.
1 1/2 gallons may not provide enough head pressure to prime the fuel system just by tugging but if you're adding pre-mix to the cylinders and it starts, one or two times doing this should be enough.
Good point about the tech. And no, I don't know, or really trust, anyone local.
I will put more of an effort into getting it restarted this weekend. I'll start with adding more gas and giving it a couple pulls with plugs out.
Thanks!
I will put more of an effort into getting it restarted this weekend. I'll start with adding more gas and giving it a couple pulls with plugs out.
Thanks!
Make sure the ignition is turned off or the kill switch is down.
Personally, I'd add more pre-mix to the cylinders and let the engine do the work of actuating the fuel pump. Again, you may have to do it more than once or twice. Adding fuel to the tank should help a bit but shouldn't be necassary.
I and many here go through this every year before the season and it's a different animal than most other brands. IOW - my Polaris' were never this stubborn to prime.
I had a 1990 Indy 500 that lost its prime last year... Took forever to get started. My neighbor just starts his sleds every 2 weeks or so throughout the year...
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There is a good chance that the hose inside of the tank has become brittle and stiff. Chances are that it's not flexible enough to get down to that 1.5 gallons of fresh fuel you added. If your up for it, change it along with the OE filter out. Might save you some heartache this winter out on the trail when you REALLY need that last gallon or so of fuel.
Thanks for the suggestion. Changing the filters on both the SXR's is something I plan on doing in the next couple months. I read about that procedure here... Doesn't sound like fun!!!
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Lots of patience.
Thanks for the advice everyone. Added more fuel, took out the plugs and pulled with about 10 times. Put plugs back in and fired up after 4 pulls and ran smooth as butter. I guess I ran it out of gas by only adding 1 gallon.
Thanks!
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