89 ovation having hard time starting and running

Cant put a crank seal in with a clutch in the way, perhaps your over your level with this endeavor?

Theres enough experience available on this site to walk you through almost anything, but the red flag comes up when someone is not sure of which gasket is the case seal? No disrespect intended, but sometimes its easier to admit your limitations and open up the wallet for a job done right.

If your dead set on doing your own thing, there are some short cuts you can do that may make the job easier, depending on your comfort level.
 
No I am not over my level I just listen to some wrong people and the only real way to learn is by making mistakes. But I am not gonna lie a diagram would be help full. So the crank seal is on the fan side of the machine. This mid throtle running problem is turning into a nightmare
 
There are 2 seals, one on the clutch side and one on the mag side. Any online parts supplier, like Port Yamaha, will have your diagram, but your more likely to be needing a service manual.

You also have the oil pump drive gear to contend with to replace the clutch side seal. Special tools needed here for both removal and installation of the gear.
 
Would you know where a service manual could be purchased. Tried all dealers in south western Ontario. And when I took my primary clutch off I did not see any gaskets and I took the cover off the case that the oil pump is hooked up to I only saw one gasket
 
Poleclimber84 said:
Would you know where a service manual could be purchased. Tried all dealers in south western Ontario. And when I took my primary clutch off I did not see any gaskets and I took the cover off the case that the oil pump is hooked up to I only saw one gasket
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Become a VIP and I can share the PDF Manual.
 
X2 on the VIP, you wont find a better deal for the money. What you do need to realize is that these are factory service manuals and they were guides for TRAINED YAMAHA TECHNICIANS! In short, your not going to find a step by step on some procedures and if your not overly engine knowledgable, theres alot left on the table under the assumption you have access to the tooling and the training. Not trying to blow any deals for potential membership upgrades, but I have referred several pdf manuals to many a folk who blamed me for their inability to comprehend or have the ability. I didnt write these, nor did this site, they came directly from Yamaha, re-read the bold above. They are not the "Holy Grail", but well worth the investment.

Are you confusing seals with gaskets? What gasket kit did you buy as they dont make a "kit" as oem. Could be your cheap aftermarket gasket set is lacking the seals. As mentioned in a previous post by throttlejunkie, the crank seals are basically rubber donuts with a spring seal. Any signs of leakage, obvious signs of deterioration, or even the spring itself hang out are signs of bad seals.

You could always do a leakdown test, but given the age of the sled, todays pisspoor fuels, and who knows what kind of prior maintenace, I would eliminate the seals as a cause. The tekei carbs are simplistic, but easy to work on in the right hands.

From what I have read in the previous posts, seems like good advice has been given by all who have participated.
 
So then why when you purchase a complete gasket set from Royal distributing do you get three different size rubber washers? I took the primary clutch off and the oil pump house and I still see nothing now i know that I am only a electrical/lineman but I am not that stupid. I can become a VIP member on this site? So for sounding stupid but this machine is turning into worse then a nightmare. I would gladly pay someone to come fix this machine if they would also teach me in the proses
 
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