yamahakid88
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Hey guys, having trouble figuring out why one cylinder looks the way it does. The 2 other cylinders I know are running rich. All 3 carbs had the same jets and settings, so im not sure why this one looks leaner
http://imgur.com/a/iGe6t
http://imgur.com/a/iGe6t
mrviper700
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its richer on the pto cylinder, not leaner. Its mostly due to that cylinder has a lower compression ratio then does the center and mag cylinders. Yamaha did this so you could use the same jet in all 3 cylinders. if you look at the head youll notice the pto cylinder has a larger dome, and if you put on a compression guage it will be lower in the pto.
yamahakid88
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I thought the darker the piston the richer it is?
mrviper700
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your pto piston pic is richer then the other 2 are, its more silver because the gas washes off the carbon. If it was all dry and silver with a sandblast appearance it would be leaner, but yours is richer.
yamahakid88
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Ok so I would need to go on the center and mag side? It has triple pipes and it was running 165 mains with 45 pilots across. Needles at stock height and 2 turns out on the screws
Danger Dog
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The mag and center are pretty lean for trail riding.
yamahakid88
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I richened up the pilots on all 3, what do you think I should do to richen up the 2 cylinders that are lean?
HDYAMAHA84
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what was the reasoning of pulling the head off?
yamahakid88
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I bought the sled and I didnt think it had the opticool headgasket on it so I swapped it out
Danger Dog
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I would richen the needles to start
yamahakid88
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Ok, should I keep the main jets at 165 across then and adjust the needles?
A couple of bucks
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Lower clip position as follows(towards the pointy end)
Center 1 clip position and mag 1.5
Center 1 clip position and mag 1.5
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Vincent
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Can you post pictures of the other two cylinders but from a better angle?
mrviper700
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what brand pipes are you running on this viper?
yamahakid88
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I really dont have any better pictures, I already closed it up. They are bender pipes. Will have to tear into the carbs again then. Can the needles be adjusted without taking the carbs out
Danger Dog
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Yes they can.
mrviper700
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just raise the needles a tad (1/2 spot)on the center and mag cylinder, look up needle adjustment on here theres even a thread or 2 with pics. if you have never done it before, I might suggest taking the carb rack off and doing them on a bench so you don't drop the screws and shims into the engine bay and invent new cuss words....
yamahakid88
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Ok ill do that, you think the #1 cylinder looks ok then?
yamahakid88
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Ok, raised the needles like you said, 1/5 turns out on fuel screws, 55 pilots and 165 mains. I did not touch the needle of the pto side piston, should that be ok?
mrviper700
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ya you should be good to go, take it out for a good rip and kill it and look at plugs and piston top