Turbo?

I never said it was impossible, just that the apex and vector dont need as much work to make them nice reliable and powerful. the 2 stroke can do it, but they tend to be a little more needy in the form of lower end building. we are both (all) making valid points, lets please leave it at that and not make this an amsnow argument :) point taken :) input appreciated.
 

i think that your reliability is yet to be seen,with all that extra cylinder pressure i don't think the 4 strokes will live as long as people my think.put a coulpe or three seasons of hard riding on a turbo RX1 and i think you will see bottom end problem
 
they have been doing it in bikes awhile, thats all I was basing it on. not to mention turbo cars. time will tell. just beefier from the get go, ought to naturally withstand more I thought
 
If you are going to spend the money on a turbo, which one are you going to spend it on?? 2 stroke or 4 stroke??? ;):D ;):D ;):D
 
03viperguy said:
they tend to be a little more needy in the form of lower end building.
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if you consider pistons bottom end then yes I can agree with that, but most modern sled engines have very stout cranks, it's not like the old dirtbikes that spat out a crank every 100 hours (altho valvejobs on 4-stroke dirtbikes should be done every 30-50 hours, and takes longer than it takes to swap a complete top-end out of a 2-stroke)

whatever, point is, modern bottom ends are plenty strong, pistons are a weak point, but how long does it take you to swap pistons/rings?

ok, I'm about done with this, I've proven that it can be done, and it CAN be reliable, if done properly, as seen with detroit (series 92 is one of the best selling engines of all time, and has been around in one form or another for decades) infact there's alot of things about 2-stroke that really lend themselves to forced induction (expansion chambers, if set-up properly can make for even bigger gains) it's a more complicated task all around, not necessarily more expensive or less rewarding tho.

peace on all acounts, I have a turbo in my car and love it to death, for that application it's a great set-up, but what's good for a 3.0L I6 might not be great an R1 or an RX-1, big gains, forsure, but a busa makes MUCH bigger ones with way fewer parts needing to be swapped out.
 
ya man, hate to admit to driving a japanese car, 'cause I used to be a die hard jeep guy, but ya, supra.

it's nice, but not as fast as I was expecting it to be.
 
03viperguy said:
nice, what year? nothing wrong with japanese, dependability and quality are nice ;)
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the quality I'll give it, but dependability, it's not bad, but I miss the jeeps in that regard, always had something wrong with them true, but the amount of abuse they dealt with before something got mangled was bloody incredible.

car's an 88, looking at a 1jz swap (gotta get the tuning forks back in there) it's quick, but not hella fast, they always talk about the headroom they have "just pound the boost to 'em" but in reality, there's weak spots, bottom end may be strong enough, but pistons, valves, springs, getting the head o-ringed to hold the boost, alot of little stuff that adds up to BIG $$ before it's really ready to be pounded on. can be a pain to work on to. allwell, someday I'll get it where I want it.
 
Junior said:
the quality I'll give it, but dependability, it's not bad, but I miss the jeeps in that regard, always had something wrong with them true, but the amount of abuse they dealt with before something got mangled was bloody incredible.

car's an 88, looking at a 1jz swap (gotta get the tuning forks back in there) it's quick, but not hella fast, they always talk about the headroom they have "just pound the boost to 'em" but in reality, there's weak spots, bottom end may be strong enough, but pistons, valves, springs, getting the head o-ringed to hold the boost, alot of little stuff that adds up to BIG $$ before it's really ready to be pounded on. can be a pain to work on to. allwell, someday I'll get it where I want it.
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400 rwp is fine with the stock 7mgte bottom end (after a steel head gasket and studs are installed), how much you looking for?
 
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