Harry Balzonya
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do u think that yamaha is to worried about weight
adubs916
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In my opinoion they should be very concerned with the weight of their sleds. They have taken many customers away form the others in the trail riding segment because the pros out weigh the cons. But when it comes to the aggresive ditch banging type, they will not attract as many new customers.(with current RTX & Nitro) The ultimate feature is a light weight powerfull sled. With what Yamaha has done with their ATVs and Cycles, I hope it will be only a matter of time that we get that 120Hp and 482lb. sled. I think that the Apex line is amazing, but not every rider wants to fork over 10. big ones, and while 150Hp is mighty tempting, 120Hp is just fine wrapped in a 480lb body. Just my thoughts.
Harry Balzonya
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my .02 on yamaha for now
this year is definitly different from the last few years i guess yamaha got sick of being number 4. Considering that all there engines now are 4stroke the weight is very good, but hey when u got a 150 poneys between ur legs i dont think that and extra 40lbs is gonna make that big of a difference ur still gona go over a 100 miles an hour( fast enough for me) and if anyone out there wanted to get a lighter yami all they would have to do is buy a few after market lightweight parts, and then they would have the most awsome sled out thier(bullet proof reliabilty and light weight)
in my opinion i think those light ac sd pol out there cant handle the pain that u can give a yamaha. Ill be ridin my yami for the next 100 years and ill be keepin my 2 stroke too, and when they get all the kinks out of the new apex,nytro and atack if theres any ill definitly get one of them too. One more point theres nothing out there right now that compares to the look of a yamaha
jamie
this year is definitly different from the last few years i guess yamaha got sick of being number 4. Considering that all there engines now are 4stroke the weight is very good, but hey when u got a 150 poneys between ur legs i dont think that and extra 40lbs is gonna make that big of a difference ur still gona go over a 100 miles an hour( fast enough for me) and if anyone out there wanted to get a lighter yami all they would have to do is buy a few after market lightweight parts, and then they would have the most awsome sled out thier(bullet proof reliabilty and light weight)
in my opinion i think those light ac sd pol out there cant handle the pain that u can give a yamaha. Ill be ridin my yami for the next 100 years and ill be keepin my 2 stroke too, and when they get all the kinks out of the new apex,nytro and atack if theres any ill definitly get one of them too. One more point theres nothing out there right now that compares to the look of a yamaha
jamie
98srx6
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I dont get it....
Allvipedup
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I'm sure they're doing the best they can. I can't imagine that it's easy to make a light 4 stroke and keep the cost at any respectable level. I was at the dealer tonight, sheckin em all out and Yamaha has it...those things just sparkle. and here's the great thing... they're # 1 seller (for them) this year was you know who...the sleds of blue...hee hee. Now mind you this is one of the highest volume dealers in the whole US of A. I think we might just might take over a new positon...
yamyrider
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when you shave too much weight there is a trade off. The 4 strokes have more motor parts then 2 strokes which adds weight.
I little lighter would be nice but does not mean much to me.
I little lighter would be nice but does not mean much to me.
03viperguy
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I am indifferent. I ride trails and the viper feels the same on the trails as dads vector er, and both seem about on par with my old 97 600sx that was light. I would rather have reliability, thats the one feature I refuse to give up. the season is too short and fickle for me to have the sled in the shop.
800
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I think Yamaha's has done a great job with the weight of their sleds, keep in mind we're not comparing apples to apples if you're comparing a Apex with an F7, and really what do you think the weight difference between a Apex and a Mach Z is???? Not much at all. And if we were going to compare an Apex to the other vibrating POS's, Mach Z's and Fusion's, there's really is no comparison. As well as, there are other light weight trail bangers out there but I myself wonder how much longer they can sell them, then who's on top????????
Yamahasrx700
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Most riders that I have met have not seen their penis in years because of 40 extra pounds of fat hangin around the ol belly. Get rid of that..for free... and you don’t have to worry about the few extra pounds the sled weighs. Get the total, rider and sled weight down.
yamaholic22
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lol, yea rider weight definately has a huge impact. No matter how you dress it up, weight IS a factor. All things equal, a lighter weight sled will handle better (given that it is setup for its lighter weight). That being said, the new yamaha's with their "heavier weight" do handle excellent. However, imagine how good they will handle if they get them down to 500 or 510 lbs dry. Like i said, weight IS a factor, there are just ways to make it VIRTUALLY disappear, and Yamaha has done a great job at that.
bluehammer
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I think Yamaha is far ahead of the other brands when it comes to weight. It should be interesting to see what the other brands weigh in at when they convert to the 4 strokes. And they're coming !!
yamaholic22
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the other brands are necessarily going to have to convert to four strokes. There is no rule stating that the engines produced must be four strokes, just that whatever engines are produced must meet emissions regulations. Skidoo has done a great job thus far in making the two stroke clean enough, and polaris is looking to be attempting the same, as well as the 750 turboed 4 stroke in case things dont work out with the 2 strokes. Not sure what direction arctic cat is going to go, only time will tell. Yamaha was the company that one could bet would go to four strokes, they have in all other product line ups, so it was almost a sure thing. The others don't have as much invested in four stroke technology as Yamaha, even suzuki/arctic cat. Yamaha took what they knew and built on it, and the others will do the same with what they believe is most promising and cost effective for them.
03viperguy
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isnt it by 2012 that it becomes 100% compliant, not a fleet average thing?
snox31
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tell it like it is manYamahasrx700 said:Most riders that I have met have not seen their penis in years because of 40 extra pounds of fat hangin around the ol belly. Get rid of that..for free... and you don’t have to worry about the few extra pounds the sled weighs. Get the total, rider and sled weight down.