Check out this "tow rig".... would you do this??

My geuss is he probably has a trailer to tow (camper) and had nowhere for the machines.
 
c-bolt said:
also to think about



oh yeah, you wouldnt be able to hit up the McD's drivethrough for breakfast anymore.....that sucks!
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The same thought went thru my head! No more McD's drivethru on sled trips.... LOL!!!
 
next time you see a car hauler, checkout where the first few cars are on the hauler - right on top of the cab, same principle. This guy might not have room to store a 4 place trailer, or where they ride may not accomodate trailers real well. We are pretty smart animals, and we adapt very well to our environment, at least most of us do....
 
We are pretty smart animals, and we adapt very well to our environment
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looks unsafe and stupid if ya ask me, and when he smashes into your car and maims your family, we will see if you feel the same way. Just saying that thing is over the gwvr fer shure! and top heavy to boot! If he's also pulling a trailer into snowy conditions he's an idiot!!!!!!!!!!! Then my insurance rates go up because of fools that do dumb sh-t like that! Car haulers have a complete framework around the vehicles they are transporting, and they comply with state and fed regulations. M2C
 
I don't know if he is over the weight limit? 1000# worth of sleds and maybe 1000# in other things that is only 1 ton. I for one think it can be unsafe but I also can see it being safe too! I've seen a truck with two sleds at 75mph going down a highway and the trailer took off from a wind gust and took truck and trailer from one side of the highway across and into the weeds, There was nothing he could of done except hang on. If there were another car with your loved ones beside it they would of been taking the same ride at 75mph. That setup looks safe to me but who knows unless you drive it. I'm not an engineer but is safe until a head on and what ever he straps it down with will be the weakest link of the setup.Sorry! the weight of the sleds should be around 2,000# that truck can easily handle that brake wise ect...
 
Devil, there are four sleds on that rig, how do you come up with 1000lbs? 2000lbs minimum probably more with a long track full of gas. As for the framing, well it's gotta be alot cause it's holding alot of weight above the cab! Also trucks are rated for a one ton bed load, I'd say the sleds up top do not qualify as bed load. Like I said when he loses control of that vehicle and maims your family, I think you'd be singing a different tune to your lawyer about what to do!!!!!!!! If you don't think that overly top heavy, wind sail, is an accident waiting to happen.......Then thats your opinion.
 
the truck can probably handle it just fine, no different than hauling a big camper, but most big campers put the vehicle over their gwvr. as far as a car hauler goes....those vehicles are chained down, pretty sure those chains are rated for a crapload more than those vehicles weigh. also they are dot approved etc....probably a lot more engineering went into that than the 4 place sled deck. i would also be more worried about overloading my tires than my truck. if air pressure is too low, than sidewalls get hot, then you have really big problems if one blows.

im just playing devils advocate. i still think its a cool idea. safe, im not so sure about unless i built it, or could examine it more thouroghly to see how everything is held down....etc.

later

joe
 
oh yeah, i am still jealous of the fact he has some sort of sleddeck. nobody up here has them....mabye ill build one myself...hmmmmmmmmmm

(just a two place though)
 
vipertripplexxx said:
Devil, there are four sleds on that rig, how do you come up with 1000lbs? 2000lbs minimum probably more with a long track full of gas. As for the framing, well it's gotta be alot cause it's holding alot of weight above the cab! Also trucks are rated for a one ton bed load, I'd say the sleds up top do not qualify as bed load. Like I said when he loses control of that vehicle and maims your family, I think you'd be singing a different tune to your lawyer about what to do!!!!!!!! If you don't think that overly top heavy, wind sail, is an accident waiting to happen.......Then thats your opinion.
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perhaps you should go back to the post your're referencing, and READ the whole thing. He corrects himself in the last sentence.
 
I'm a Mechanical Engineer and a big rig driver. looks fine to me.
a little tiper than before, but virtualy the only time vehicles tip is when they leave the road.
why do you think the shit will hit the fan that much worse in a crash with setup like that than a trailer? the framework will keep projectiles out of the cab
ever see the remains of a flipped camper? I used the word remains, but maybe flotsom would be more accurate

one heck of a lot less likly to get stuck like that too.

as far as overpasses, michigan is pretty safe compared to most states, and in the UP, drivethoughs are about all there is to worry about. it good to get out and strech anyway.
 
aSRX600guy said:
I'm a Mechanical Engineer and a big rig driver. looks fine to me.
a little tiper than before, but virtualy the only time vehicles tip is when they leave the road.
why do you think the shit will hit the fan that much worse in a crash with setup like that than a trailer? the framework will keep projectiles out of the cab
ever see the remains of a flipped camper? I used the word remains, but maybe flotsom would be more accurate

one heck of a lot less likly to get stuck like that too.

as far as overpasses, michigan is pretty safe compared to most states, and in the UP, drivethoughs are about all there is to worry about. it good to get out and strech anyway.
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I personally think the potential for damage from flying projectiles with this set up vs a trailor is 100's of times greater. First with a trailor the rig is on the ground, lower center of gravity less likely to fly especially with the tounge connected to the rear of the tow vehicle. If one or more of those sleds break loose they already have about 5 or 6 feet of air space over the trailor before the thing even starts moving. The additional air space means that in a situation with similar forces involved the projectile is going to go further just because of the energy it would take the trailored machine to reach the elevation of the hood mounted unit.
You may be safer in the cab with this set up I'll give you that, but is what your saying because you, the one carrying this stuff, is safer that it's better? No need to worry about the guy with a carload of kids that's gonna get his roof crushed in if one or more of those sleds gets launched from the roof of a pickup?
 
Big cab over campers in trucks, require receritfication of the vehicle, usually 3/4 tons need new springs to get certified. Sorry I didn't see the correction of the weight thing Crewchief. I work with a guy who has a f-350 superduty, diesel, He said look at the front wheel travel thats left on that truck. It's sitting about 4-5 inches lower than unloaded vehicle!!!! He drives one every day and said that guy is totally crazy, and the front springs are probably close to, or on the snubbers. With his boss plow it's not even close to that low. He said it's not bad enough that the truck is overloaded, it's where the weight is located that is the huge problem, added traction makes it even more likely to tip!!!!
I'm a Mechanical Engineer and a big rig driver
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WOW maybe you should have studied more in school, then you could have gotton a job as a mechanical engineer.
a little tiper than before, but virtualy
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Not very good spelling for a college graduate.
 
vipertripplexxx said:
Big cab over campers in trucks, require receritfication of the vehicle, usually 3/4 tons need new springs to get certified. Sorry I didn't see the correction of the weight thing Crewchief. I work with a guy who has a f-350 superduty, diesel, He said look at the front wheel travel thats left on that truck. It's sitting about 4-5 inches lower than unloaded vehicle!!!! He drives one every day and said that guy is totally crazy, and the front springs are probably close to, or on the snubbers. With his boss plow it's not even close to that low. He said it's not bad enough that the truck is overloaded, it's where the weight is located that is the huge problem, added traction makes it even more likely to tip!!!!
WOW maybe you should have studied more in school, then you could have gotton a job as a mechanical engineer. Not very good spelling for a college graduate.
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Maybe there is a reason that you feel so strongly about this subject. Maybe not. Maybe you should lobby your congressman to get this setup banned on your states roadways. Anyways, there is no reason to resort to personal attacks on somebody who's opinion differs from yours, as thats a good way to make yourself look like the moron. Also, dont judge people based on their profession, because a persons occupation is far from a good means of measuring their intelligence or mechanical aptitude.

BTW maybe he is a new grad. Mechanical Engineering jobs are tough to get if you dont have any experience...I know this first hand.
 
I have a Sky-High Sled deck for 2 sleds on my 3/4 ton Ram. It Squats down a little, but I can still haul my 4 place enclosed, and still be under my weight ratings for my truck. Until any of you guys have driven one of these etyle decks, you will bash it, but use one and you will really rethink owning a trailer. Granted mine holds 2 sleds, and this one holds 4, but the principal is still the same. Next time you go up north, take a look at all of the cobble****ing of trailers, and extra sleds sqeezed onto a trailer. Everyone talks about overloading of the truck, but most snowmobilers have no problem putting 3 sleds on a 2 place trailer, and overloading the tires, axle, and totally screwing up your load balance. And as for the loose things in the bed, what about all of the sleds crammed into a truck bed, sitting on the tailgate, you think that thing is going to stay still if you smoke a tree, or loose control? Just voicing my opinion, go out west and see how many guys are using these style of decks. They are really great, and take up a whole lot less room than a trailer.
 
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