Not sure of your guys setup and I have never ridden a piped Viper other than my own a few years ago. I can tell you mine with the CPR's was flat on the bottom end, then came on like crazy once you were up in the R's. It had long legs, but for my type of riding in the UP, etc. I like the stocker setup better. We used to hang out on the lake alot when I first went up there, but we now go further north for better trails. I run a 1.25" track, TPI's, have the updated shocks, a 2004 pleated seat ,a blue Viper-S type ski bottoms and a Heavy Hitter clutch setup. It rails pretty good on the trails.