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i just rode 230 miles on saturday in the u.p these miles were on my viper and a lot of the trails were pretty bumpy and my rear suspention is super stiff me and my dad both sat on the sled for a combined weight of around 350 pounds and my suspention went down maybe an inch with both of us on if either one of us sit on his t cat the suspention drops a long way towards the ground and the ride is great on his t cat and my viper ride sucks i am bouncing everywhere i swear my suspention absorbs 0 percent of the bumps and my back is extremely sore what is the best/cheapest way to make this viper ride better
 
I can just about jump on my running boards and get mine to go way down
I think you need to check your settings, try just moving the fra to the soft setting?
 
Yea you gotta get in there and try making adjustments. Lot of good information in the tech FAQ and on the tech pages for setup.
 
You can definetely improve it,but I have been down that rode.After 1500 miles and two shock revalves and every conceivable adjustment you can imagine I just threw in the towel and put in a m-10.Even at best in certain conditions it will feel like it strokes decent,but generally only feels like it moves a few inches at best.I have verified this with some shock rebuilders and they seem to agree with me,its a sub standard setup.I will give it this,It is a huge part of the rail around corners handling.I definetely gave up some of that with the m-10,but the ride is worth it and I am still dialing in the handling.Ihate to sound like a wet blanket on this topic,but thought I would share my experiences with you,but you can for sure improve it and get the updated shocks if you can find a set if you end up keeping that skidframe.
 
I put in a used cat skid and absalutly love it. Huge improvement across the board, for less than $250. ;)!
 

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I put in a used cat skid and absalutly love it. Huge improvement across the board, for less than $250. ;)!
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Which CAT skid do you have in your viper? Are the widths the same? Two or three mounting holes? I may have to look into this as an option over going with an M10, Expert, or Edge skid. Obviously I'd go with an M10 or Expert, but can't justify spending a $1000+ for one.
 
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Which CAT skid do you have in your viper? Are the widths the same? Two or three mounting holes? I may have to look into this as an option over going with an M10, Expert, or Edge skid. Obviously I'd go with an M10 or Expert, but can't justify spending a $1000+ for one.
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yamaha is the only one with 3 sets of holes. some cat skids werent coupled until 2001 and the uncoupled ones didnt ride good and they had too much weight transfer to corner decent. a ski doo sc10III or a polaris edge suspension would be a better choice in my opinion (i have had seat time on all of them) either one should be $300-$400 complete with shocks in good condition. most tunnel widths are so close that they will bolt in with just a couple holes. like previously said, the proaction will never ride as good as these other 2. it can be improved upon, just not enough though.
 
n2oiroc,

Yeah, you've helped me a ton regarding the Edge skid. It does appear though that it takes some work to install an edge. NickSXR recently installed one in his SXR and it was more work than what he thought it was going to be. He had to fab two spacers with mounts for the front mounts. The steering bracket is in the way, so that needs to be modified as well or the skid needs to be moved back to clear it. I think he cut the last few inches off of his steering brackets.

It can be done, but it does take some decent modifications to make it work. I don't know how it compares to a CAT or DOO skid, but i would think the CAT skid would be easier if all you have to do is shave it down, and drill new holes to make it fit.
 
I used a 00 cat skid that is uncoupled. for my riding style, I like it better then the coupled. I ride very agressive and tend to look for the nastiest bumps, the coupled skids tend to be more harsh in these conditions. You do sacrifice some cornering, but in my opinion, its well worth it.
I did shave about a 1/4" off of each front mount to allow for a mounting plate to be installed in the tunnel. The rear of the tunnel flexed enough to allow for the extra width of the skid.
You could always add the coupling blocks later if needed.
 
I agree with Sno-Xr I like the uncoupled suspension better we ride pretty similar and you can prload the suspension better for going over the bumps and makes it a lot funner to ride!If your just a flat trail cruiser I would go with the coupled.
 
Sno, what type of sled did come out of? A ZR? What did you use for mounting brakets/plates? Thanks!
 
I believe it was out of a ZRT800, as for mounting plates, in the front i made a couple of 1/8" thick by 2" X 2" plates. The rear holes were drilled through the exsisting tunnel bracing and i re-used the fancy mounting plates on the outside. I m getting around a little better now(after my foot and leg surgery ), so I will make up some drawings on the mounting locations and post them by monday or tuesday.
 
Snoxr, that sounds good, im looking forward to the instal info. My zr 900 skid is here, but i have to pick it up at UPS.I will starting my instalation shortly.
 
Sno-Xr, that would be helpful info if you could provide it. Some inside pics of your tunnel would be great too! ;)! If it's fairly simple, I may go with the CAT mod as well for next year. How different is the ZRT skid than a the newer F series skids?

Thanks!
 
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