2000 SX front ski shock options?

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Bob Quale

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I have a 2000 SX with an M-10. The front ski shocks are original stock. I have 5000 miles on them and am looking for options. Should I rebuild them? and if so, do you guys have any recomendations for rebuild or just stock? or should I buy a new set of shocks? and if so what would you guys recomend and what kind of cost?

Thanks Bob
 
Have Bruce over at pioneer performance rebuild them for you and even revalve if you would like.He has done several sets for me and he does excellent work.You can rebuild kyb shocks many times, they are a quality product. PP also carries ohlins which are excellent shocks,but kinda spendy, its your call.You can reach pioneer at 716-496-8800, by the way I have an '01 with an m-10 also, nice improvement huh?I almost forgot he gets 40.95 each for rebuild or 44.95 revalved also, later Josh
 
Bob, are you running stock skis or aftermarket?I am thinking of changing skis, I thought the stock skis were great with the stock skid,but they lost something with the m-10.With the taller stance the sled seems tippier and I don't think they bite quite as well either,I have thought of simmons with the dual runner there supposed to be more stable from the wider effective stance. Have you researched this stuff at all? Any of your insights would be appreciated.
 
I have not thought of the simmons but have heard great things about them. If you try them please let me know!

I love my M-10, here is what I have done so far. I have the pre load on the main spring at no pre load, then the fra is at about 2.25. The front spring has about five threads showing under the nut. The strap is at 4/4. I seam to have plenty of ski pressure, But also feel that I loose the front end too often. This past year was very short and conditions were not good. I have six inch carbides with 120 studs, My carbide were not too good so I figured the problem was I need eight inch carbides and new one at that. I have the skis shimmed and have no darting.

I also trimmed the transfer blocks by about .25 inch for more transfer. Since the skid is soft, I get about six inch of sag lowering the center of gravity! This worked very well for me. If I could just get the front end to stay hooked up it would be perfect!

How is your ski pressure? If I am parked on the trail it is very hard to turn the bars unless moving. I also get a full imprint in the snow of the under side of the ski.

Also I am 200lbs.

So just to clarify, I think the problem with my front end in not enough carbide and they are worn out at that? when do you replace carbides?

Bob
 
It sounds like we have similar settings on the rear,but my center shock has more preload.I also trimmed 1/4 in. of rear blocks which helped the transfer some.My ski pressure is fairly lite, I would take some preload off the ski shocks, this should help with that.I have also found that running the center shock loose like that will also make you carry alot more weight on the skis so you might want to tighten that up some.I think your skid settings has more to do with your steering than your carbides do, they help some in snow, but mainly just help you turn on ice.I generally replace my carbides when there totally dull which is every year or two depending on snow conditions.I run bergstrom triple point with ski savers and shimmed skis also, bar none best setup going in my opinion, lighter steering also with this setup.I could go on ,but have to go if I left out anything you were wondering about ask and I'll reply later, Josh
 
Thanks for the reply!

I was thinking of tightening the front skid spring to take some of the weight off the front skis, but thought that might make the front wash all that more in the hard turns? With out a dought, I have a lot of ski pressure. Can too much pressure make it wash? How do you go about setting your ski pressure?

Bob
 
I would just slowly tighten the center shock spring and see how it feels. I have about 3.75 in. of threads showing on my ski springs which is probably 1/4 to 3/8 in. softer than when I bought this sled.I am not sure right of what the center shock spring is at, but its 1/4 in. softer than the factory fast setting.I don't think too much pressure will make it wash, it usually makes the rear squarrly though.I'd adjust the springs as we discussed and put on some fresh carbides, its sounds like yours are really shot maybe even the bars and that would definetely make it wash out in the turns. Another thing I thought of is your shocks with so many miles on them could be contributing to your problem, take care of that for sure.6 in. carbides is also fine with 120 studs, I have run 144 studs with 6in. and it worked well.Longer carbides would help with the pushing, but would increase your steering effort.I highly recommend bergstrom skegs brand carbides and he has a website www.bergstromskegs.com and it has a phone number to get in touch with scott, the owner.I think he could also be a huge help to you in recommending the right stuff to help with your issue here beyond just the spring adjustments.Well, at least you have plenty of time to get this sorted out before next winter right? Josh
 
Thanks Josh,

When you say the center ski spring, I think that is the shock on the front of the skid? or the one that the fra does not adjust?. I was thinking if I tighten the front skid shock, taking some pressure off the skis, not only would it make it easier on my arms, but also keep the back of the skid from biting so well and maybe make it turn better?

I am thinking that the skid may be planted too well and making the sled always want to go straight?

Also, I have to say, I tend to be an aggressive rider, so I have this thing close, but not perfect!

I called about the shock rebuild, but had to leave a message and have not heard back yet.

Thanks Bob
 
Correct, the front shock in the skidframe is what I was talking about when I said center shock.If your happy with your ride I'd leave the the fra and the rear alone,What we talked about earlier contributes alot more to steering than the rear shock in my tuning this setup.I am sure they will get back with you at Pioneer its just this is there slower season.Another thing I thought of is bruce will setup your spring preload when he does your shocks so you may not have to mess with the ski shocks much.Well, I hope through all of this I have been some help to you, Josh
 
Yes, Very helpfull!

I talked to Bruce today and decided to get his front end kit. It makes the stance a little wider and taller, also new shocks. He has it on his web sight! Now all the tunning will start again!

Thanks Bob
 
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