redsnake3
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i think with that some of the problem may be an overcharge in the sysem without the battery since there is no place to put the charging power from the sled.
red devil
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That is my point redsnake3! There is no grounding of the extra voltage.jumper wire will probabaly fix it, but why can't anyone from yamaha help this guy out?It is a simple question.
daman
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Because they do the same as we do to fix something,,get the manual out!!!
they don't know anything...
they don't know anything...
That's true daman. When I called them they had to call me cause the manual took so long to download, lol.
Got kinda a weird twist of events. This past week I went to start the old skidoo I got and the recoil stuck and took my right ring finger with it. Went to the drs today and it's broken in three places. Gonna need the electric start on the yami now, lol. I'm goinng to have to give the finger at least 3 weeks before I can even use my hand that much.... life sucks sometimes but I gotta laugh it off.
Got kinda a weird twist of events. This past week I went to start the old skidoo I got and the recoil stuck and took my right ring finger with it. Went to the drs today and it's broken in three places. Gonna need the electric start on the yami now, lol. I'm goinng to have to give the finger at least 3 weeks before I can even use my hand that much.... life sucks sometimes but I gotta laugh it off.

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red devil said:That is my point redsnake3! There is no grounding of the extra voltage.jumper wire will probabaly fix it, but why can't anyone from yamaha help this guy out?It is a simple question.
Unfortunately, Yamaha's customer service is very poor. Probably the worst in the industry.
The standard answer is usually not to do anything to your sled.
And also, being that the headquarters and manufacturing is in Japan, there is a disconnect between there and North America Yamaha facilities.
I had no idea people were having problems like those, I pulled my battery, starter, cables, and the ring gear, no other mods, just ripped em out, and my sled's been running fine for probably 4-5k miles problem free tach works, never had a light blow out, never had one problem related to the electic system.
daman
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maxout01 said:When I called them they had to call me cause the manual took so long to download, lol.
Thats funny..LOL!!!!
I think it depends on the sled year as for the problems with the elec. w/o the battery. As for yamaha they definitely don't have a clue. The first guy I talked to asked for my vin and then told me it wasn't a vin#. I said it's what's on the side of the sled and on the registration. He laughed like he had no clue and said "yea your probably right then." Oh well at least they called me back with an answer!
daman
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I agree,,seems like the newer sleds have the problems..
Tombis
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I have in front of me a wiring diagram in my factory yamaha manual that covers vx700/vx700dx/sx700/mm700/vt700. The only difference between the electric start models and the non electric start models is as follows.
The electric start models have an added (1) Battery (2) main fuse (3) starter
(4) starter relay (5) tail fuse (6) head fuse There may also be a revese buzzer and a gear position switch if it has reverse.
The non electric start models have added to them two smoothing capacitors.
Yamaha part number 1NL-81965-01-00 or 3TC-81965-00-00
There will not be any issues with overcharging because all models use the same voltage regulator/rectifier
The battery and the smoothing capacitors both do the same job of smoothing out the (dirty) electrical supply from the regulator so there isnt any voltage spikes or glitches.
Get a factory Yamaha manual and it will have all the info that you need to Mod your sleds electrical system.(Dont get a clymer manual as it incorrectly reprints and older wiring system (1997-2000) Yamha updated the system for the 2001 model year.)
Tom
The electric start models have an added (1) Battery (2) main fuse (3) starter
(4) starter relay (5) tail fuse (6) head fuse There may also be a revese buzzer and a gear position switch if it has reverse.
The non electric start models have added to them two smoothing capacitors.
Yamaha part number 1NL-81965-01-00 or 3TC-81965-00-00
There will not be any issues with overcharging because all models use the same voltage regulator/rectifier
The battery and the smoothing capacitors both do the same job of smoothing out the (dirty) electrical supply from the regulator so there isnt any voltage spikes or glitches.
Get a factory Yamaha manual and it will have all the info that you need to Mod your sleds electrical system.(Dont get a clymer manual as it incorrectly reprints and older wiring system (1997-2000) Yamha updated the system for the 2001 model year.)
Tom
That's some great info. It's about time someone came out with it!! Thanks!
red devil
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So what is the fix ? I donot have a problem but I do have a 88 phazer that can run without the battery. Is there a problem I donot know because I dont have a viper with a electric start but if I did and wanted to shave some # I would like to know. Would it be a major project to take it out, I wouldn't think it would be or is it????