let me chime in here, i have a camp in silver city, just inside the porkies and this is the lake of the clouds. It is apic from at least three years ago! now it is blocked off and you have to walk up. And for the guy who went over he did infact live, broke both femurs and his back, he was repelled up and over from where he went over and his 1991 yamaha exciter stayed in the pine tree it crashed into all winter!! not bad for a 55 year old grandpa hey!!
Dan