Viper Treats
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Anyone use double backers with success? Mostly concerned with track life and studs ripping out. I have always used singles, but thought about going to doubles if there is an advantage.
yamaholic22
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Yes i use a mixture of doubles and singles on most stud setups i do. Wish i was near my sled so i could get a picture, but yes doubles do definately have advantages. If one stud gets hit, it can easily get ripped out by bending the track very severly causing a tear at the edge of the backer. Using double backers reduces this risk because if one stud gets hit there is that much more supporting area to help reduce the stress on the track in the immediate area. The load per area is decreased, so there are less tear outs. Obviously riding style and conditions are the biggest factors to preventing stud rip outs though. I ride in good conditions and i am not a moron on the throttle trying to slide through every corner, spin across roads, or punch it wide open from a dead stop all the time, you don't gain anything if you are just spinning anyway.
Viper Treats
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Think 108 pattern with doubles is enough for a 800 renegade or should I jump up to 162.
yamaholic22
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personally i would go with the 162 no question, 800ccs and 140 horse is a lot for a 108 pattern.
Viper Treats
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Yeah, I agree, I talked to a guy that had 108 in his with doubles, but I think the more you put in the better off you are. I just hope I can get it to corner.
n2oiroc
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you have a p.m. about backers for sale.Viper Treats said:
doug
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The last four sleds I have studded have been with double backers. They have worked-out great, no pull-throughs yet on any of them. The original Woodys double backers would bend too easily, but they have since thickened them up. I am going to put 162 up the middle on both of our new Attaks, Stud Boy studs and double backers. Sometimes it's hard to get the "optimal" pattern with only using double backers, but I guess I'm not that concerned about it.
Viper Treats
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Doug, I was looking at patterns with doubles and yeah it looks like you repeat a couple of scratch lines. If you mix some singles in it looks better, but to me having them not rip out is more important.
yamaholic22
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dont use a pattern to stud. You are better of to use a pattern for the basis of your own pattern, because the human error involved in doing them free hand as opposed to laying them all out with a pattern will give you more scratch lines.