marcush
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I have a atacc to install on a red head tripple with ceramic coated pipes and in the directions it is said if you have non insulated after marked pipes you will have to richen your baseline jetting.My question is and I assume that ceramic coated pipes are considered insulated?Has anyone installed an atacc on a 700 tripple?
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I wouldn't worry about it too much. From the posts on here people say it didn't change jetting at all when they got their pipes coated. Do a search for "pipes" on the vmax/sx/sxr section or "ceramic coating" or "coating pipes" or similar. You'll find tons and tons of posts on it and they all generally say the same thing. Smoother power, faster pipe warm up, no jetting changes bla bla etc.
Good Luck.
Good Luck.
marcush
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yes I know coated pipes don"t require a jetting change.The instructions of the atacc is saying that non insulated pipes run hotter than insulated ones therefore bring up under hood temperatures which inturn gives a false rich signal to the device and starts to lean out mixture before if should.I myself don't find there is an increased amount of heat under the hood.My question still stands are cermaic coated pipes considered insulated?
taped throttle
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not being a smartazz but call holtzman, he should be able to clarify "insulated".
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OH ok I understand your question now. You have coated pipes already?
If you do have coated pipes, my answer would be that you would be SAFER with the coating running RICHER because your underhood temps would be lower with the ceramic. Because technically the coating is insulated as it keeps the heat from radiating through the steel. The ATACC would sense that the air is cooler therefore richening up the mixture. If you had uninsulated or non-coated pipes it would think it's warmer outside therefore leaning out the mixture.
However, if you could find a way to vent the ATACC to the ambient temperature somehow (people have done this with the tempaflo) it will always be set to the correct outside temperature.
One catch is that your underhood air is the air that the airbox is taking in, so it shouldn't make a difference unless you are stopped for a little while, and gas it. In this case, you would be safer with the coated pipes.
Any more info you're gonna have to catch somebody else... i'm all tapped out lol.
If you do have coated pipes, my answer would be that you would be SAFER with the coating running RICHER because your underhood temps would be lower with the ceramic. Because technically the coating is insulated as it keeps the heat from radiating through the steel. The ATACC would sense that the air is cooler therefore richening up the mixture. If you had uninsulated or non-coated pipes it would think it's warmer outside therefore leaning out the mixture.
However, if you could find a way to vent the ATACC to the ambient temperature somehow (people have done this with the tempaflo) it will always be set to the correct outside temperature.
One catch is that your underhood air is the air that the airbox is taking in, so it shouldn't make a difference unless you are stopped for a little while, and gas it. In this case, you would be safer with the coated pipes.
Any more info you're gonna have to catch somebody else... i'm all tapped out lol.
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And to answer all that in one sentence, yes ceramic coating acts as an insulator lol. That would have been much easier.
nightmanx1
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If it is saying to richen the carbs for non-insulated pipes, that is becouse the underhood temp is going to be hoter. And ceramic coated pipes are insulated, as far as I would be conserned they are, so it would meen to run leaner jetting. BUT start rich and go from there, I would start with stock jetting and test that first.