Need to remove oil from reservoir?

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I need to remove the syn oil from my reservoir to put in non-syn oil to break in a new top end rebuild. Any one have a good trick or too to get the oil out. I haven't looked into it very much but was just thinking maybe the wife's turkey bastor would work well? What do you guys think?
 

I straightened a coat hanger last year and wound it around about 3 ft of fuel line. Used the hanger to get, and hold, the hose to the bottom of the bottle, started the siphon and walked away.
 
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the easiest way is to use a suction pump gun, it looks like a greae gun with a hose on it, they sell them for 7-8 bucks at autozone or advance auto part stores, you just simplt insert the hose into oiltank and pullback on the handle, it will hold a good 3/4 of a qt each suction time, very quick and simple.
 
well, you can do it easy with a 3/4 thick peice of pvc hose.

but isnt it ok to break in with syn, and couldnt you just leave it and add reg yamalube to your gas at a 50:1 ratio for 120miles or 200kms.

I dont understand why people think you cant use syn to break in a motor, maybe people are just used to doning this. All i know is the honda dealer recomended I use Honda HP2 which is full syn to break in my motor on my bike.

Maybe someone can elaborate on this.
 
Is it bad to break a fresh top end in with a full syn.????????? If so why?????? Could have swore NOSBOY said it perfectly fine to break in with full syn., whats yours guys take on this? Sorry for the off topic but mine will be fired up soon and wanna know. Thanks
 
Motor Break In

I'm also breaking in a new motor. I also have synthetic in the tank. I was planning on disconnecting the oil pump cable at the throttle and running premix for one tank of fuel (not yamalube). Then reconnect cable after first load of fuel. Any comments good or bad idea?
 
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On the whole process of breaking the engine in after a re-ring or rebuild. I would suspect that for 99% of use that ride trails and don't know much out the delta between syn and petroleum based oils and how that might change an engine break in we aren't going to see, feel or hear any difference if we used one oil vs. the other. I just wanted to do it as a state of mind, as in most instances of reading on the subject there isn't much that exclusively points to one way being better than the other. And 99% of use don't even run the engine through the proper or even the suggested break in procedure, as the urge to pin it after about 20 miles on the new port job overcomes the need to run the proper procedure. So I doubt that one oil vs. the other is going to make any difference. Just my opinion but this debate could go back and forth forever I am sure. I am finishing by saying if it is easy enough to get the syn oil out of the tank with a quick siphon ect... then I will plan to add a petroleum based oil otherwise might just say it isn't worth the hassle.
 
The last motor that I broke in I mixed the gas tank with yamalube 50:1 and I also had yamalube in the oil tank. I now have 2000 miles on the motor since the rebuild with no problems. I use yamalube. But that is just my two cents!! :letitsnow
 
I'm not arguing with any one or looking to debate the issue. I just wanna know if there would be a diff. between the 2, not saying your gunna feel a diff. but the MOTOR might while being broke in.

NOSBOY and MOTOR GURUS chime in on this issue please, I'd like to hear some opinions on this. Just for future reference.

Again sorry for the off topic, but your question has been answered and have many options to remove the oil.
 
It has something to do with setting the rings. I would run full petroleum for about 200 miles or so. My Amsoil dealer told me not to run Amsoil with a fresh top end. He told me to run petroleum only for the first 200 miles.
 
the synthetic oil is too slippery to allow the rings to break into the cylinder walls. when they dont break into the walls you have blow-by on the pistons and the motor runs like crap because of lower compression. the dino oil isnt as slippery and thus allows the rings to seat into the cylinder walls much better. at 200km rings are as seated as they are ever going to be on a 2stroke, so it is fine to add synthetic to the reservoir at this point. yamirider had this problem with his sx700r last season and running the dino oil to break it in was the fix.
 
I had to drain non synthetic out cuz i was sick of running it, thought about it for a bit then went into the vets and got one of those big syringes they use for livestock. I then attatched a piece of hose to the end of it and sucked it all out, worked really well even when it was cold out.

Good luck
 
I bought a Deluxe Siphone Pump from Murrys cost $12. It can be used for oil, gas or airing up things. I suck all the old gas out of the sled and it worked awsome. It is orange with several different hoses for the applications.
 
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a guy just PM'd me and I explained why synthetic oil was a good thing to break in a fresh motor.. hopefully he will see this thread and pot it here.. i asked him to post it.. Synthetic oil acually HELPS with the EXCESSIVE FRICTION CREATED with a freshly honed motor.. Everyone knows I like to break it in HARD with REALLY ROUGH WALLS,, Rough walls produce MORE heat than 320 grit walls!!! Synthetic oil MELLOWS it out a little!!! I am not going to get into the hows and whys like i did on the PM,,,but,,, SYNTHETIC oil will actually HELP you break in a motor less violently.. A motor broken in by raising the rpms to 7000 (without the belt) and then down to 1500 (spending 4 seconds to bring it up to 7 grand and 4 seconds to bring it back down) ( a DOZEN TIMES UP AND DOWN AGAIN) , RETORQUING EVERYTHING while its warm, letting it COOL DOWN (IMPORTANT) starting it back up and driving it up to 7500-8000 gradually (40MPH) and letting the engine braking do its thing to slow to creeping a dozen times IS THE WAY TO GO!!! Let it cool DOWN TO COLD between sequences, then WARM IT UP and do the twisty turny faster and slower trails for an HOUR or so (NEVER KEEPING IT AT A CONSTANT SPEED) and your MOTOR will break in JUST FINE!!!!! let it cool down (COLD) and DRIVE IT LIKE YOU STOLE IT if you want!!! Anyone that tells you that it takes 500 miles to break in a 2 stoke motor PROBABLY has some good reefer for sale!!!!!(just a joke guys!!!) Use synthetic oil,, ALWAYS!!!! Please keep away from semi synhetic garbage yamajunk oil!!! gary O. nosboy :letitsnow
 
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