bluemonster1
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If you take your basic SXR and measure from the floor to the center of the mounting plate for your ski...what do you get? Since I installed my newUSI ski's and mounting plate,seems front end of sled has dropped down.The mounting plates aren't as high as the stock ones.I seem to be getting more snow flying over my hood,windshield and into my visor.With electric visor on when a shot of snow hit's it,I get a freezing effect on visor,otherwise the visor is clear.Seems to me my skid plate is cutting through the snow more and causing snow to fly upwards.I'll have to either get new mounting plates,(which I really don't want to because I paid a lot for these) or maybe find some solid rubber and place under the mounting plate to lift it higher,but then I may have the problem of the carbide runner threads not coming through high enough to put the nuts on.I am thinking I have lost 3/4 to an inch on my height.Any other suggestions here guys?Thanks a lot.........................................................Doug(Blue1)
bluemonster1
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And also because of this effect happening,a lot more snow is going thru the hood vents and always have snow in the engine compartment to.
boondoctor
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I am pretty sure that Viper spindles are higher than sx, sxr, etc. Maybe look into this route. Your avitar picture makes the front end look quite low, could be just the pic though.
gild
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ski mount
Vipe trailing arms at the spindle and spindle are longer then the Sx and SXrs
Vipe trailing arms at the spindle and spindle are longer then the Sx and SXrs
bluemonster1
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Hi there gild,it's been a while.How u doing.How much longer do you think they are for sure.
gild
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longer
I would guess Vipers are about 1" longer on the trailing arms. One other thing to check is the angle of the front of the ski as well as the tip width.The flatter the angle and smaller the tip throws less snow. We used to redrill and mount the ski tips so they were shallower on the stockers and it was better in the fluff. C/A skiis throw more snow on the hood then Simmons etc. It might be a ski issue.
Lots of snow in B.C daughter in Toronto says it too warm.
I would guess Vipers are about 1" longer on the trailing arms. One other thing to check is the angle of the front of the ski as well as the tip width.The flatter the angle and smaller the tip throws less snow. We used to redrill and mount the ski tips so they were shallower on the stockers and it was better in the fluff. C/A skiis throw more snow on the hood then Simmons etc. It might be a ski issue.
Lots of snow in B.C daughter in Toronto says it too warm.
bluemonster1
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Well I checked the spindles and they measure up as 7" from where they start above the mount plate to top where the steering arm is attached.If the Viper spindle is 1" longer,I would have to put a spacer down below between where the mount plate is welded to the underside of the trailing arm.
gild
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My friend has got a Viper, I'll measure it and get back to you on length of viper spindle. My SXr I cut off 1 " on all my radius rods and steering rods to make it a 40" wide front end, that raised the front 1"+ with the same sping setting. I have aluminum rods so I had that option, just a thought for you also.
SpartaSXr
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Ski's
You are on the right path. The SXr came stock with Rocker ski's. They do have a 1" spacer on the mount and raise the sled up in the front. When I put Viper ski's on the SXr the geometry went out the window. front down and back of track off the ground as you describe. You can overcome the track footprint by adjusting the skid / limiter starps and transfer rods. Adjust out until the track comes back down almost flat. With weight on the sled you will flatten it out correctly. Hope this helps. I am doing the same thing with a 99 Phazer with Viper ski's. Not as drastic but still noticable. Keep us posted on the results. OH the Viper spindles are much longer than the SXr.
You are on the right path. The SXr came stock with Rocker ski's. They do have a 1" spacer on the mount and raise the sled up in the front. When I put Viper ski's on the SXr the geometry went out the window. front down and back of track off the ground as you describe. You can overcome the track footprint by adjusting the skid / limiter starps and transfer rods. Adjust out until the track comes back down almost flat. With weight on the sled you will flatten it out correctly. Hope this helps. I am doing the same thing with a 99 Phazer with Viper ski's. Not as drastic but still noticable. Keep us posted on the results. OH the Viper spindles are much longer than the SXr.
M-Max
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You just can't please some people.
We have no snow, the snow is blowing in my face.
Just kidding. Your skid plate causes as much problem as anything.
There are dimples in it for the radius rods. I find that they throw
the POW in your face all the time, especially when you get
off the throttle quickly
We have no snow, the snow is blowing in my face.
Just kidding. Your skid plate causes as much problem as anything.
There are dimples in it for the radius rods. I find that they throw
the POW in your face all the time, especially when you get
off the throttle quickly
The viper spindles are longer but you'll need the trailing arms also because the spindle housing is longer to go with the taller spindle. This was changed when they went with the thin stamped aluminum ski saddle instead of the cast aluminum saddle. The saddleless skis have the same mount height as the stamped saddle and the steel ski matches the cast aluminum for height. You loose around an inch in ride height.
Another option is to flip your front shock mounts. I believe this will give you about a 1" gain in height. I had this problem with my SRX when putting skis from an Apex on it. Basically you flip the mount for the top of the front shocks and reverse sides. You will see an area where you will have to grind a small amount out of the mount to clear a protrusion in the bulk head. Hope this helps. This will give you the correct geometry but your raduis rods will still be lower.
bluemonster1
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You arte right there M -Max.I thought that's what was happening.Last year with stock ski's...not at all.This season with new ski's and mounting plate not as high as stock,sled drop's down in front,thus them dimples do hit the snow and up over hood it goes.Can't take that,it really bugs me.Usually hit's my Helmet Visor which is electric and I will get icing on the visor.Iwill have to get front back up somehow.
bluemonster1
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Well I stiffened up my front ski shocks and the front rear suspension shock.I had them adjusted to bare minimum last season.The FRA is still in the softest position.Started out today with a height from floor to underside of front bumper at 14 1/4 inches. Now after my adjustments that distance is now approx 15 1/4 inches.That is again of approx. an inch.Rear bumper to underside to floor is 20 "I opened up my transfer rod gap to an inch to see what would happen.Is it my imagination or what.When I push down on the rear suspension and the trans. rod is moving,it seems like the track loosens up.