This is exactly what yamaha needed, they have worked relentless on these new 4 stroke sleds and most any of the nay sayers have never even rode one. The ads you see with skidoo placing dumb bells on the hood to even it out, seem to easily overlook the fact that the yamahas come with reverse and electric start std, they compare a pull start 600 to a apex....LOL!. Winning the sno cross on a 4 thumper will take them far and hopefully a couple more even podium finishs will open a few eyes. In my opinion they are at least 4-5 years ahead of the competiton with these apex sleds and now the phazer, just wait till feb and there will be more ship jumpers.....Great Job Guys, you deserve it!!