My Dell is a POS!!!

I bought two brand new dell desk tops a couple years ago and both are factory certified POS! i just got one fixed (fried mofo board and powersupply) courtesy of Dell, but i had to rattle some cages after 3 months of being nice. If you can't get them to fix it, i found a forum where some pretty smart computer dudes are lurking and are glad to help.

I have had compaq, ibm, toshiba for laptops and my toshiba is the only one worth anything, and has gone for almost 5years without a single hitch (paid a fortune for it new but man o man was it worth it.) Just now I do need a new power cord, but that's all. Toshiba must be the Yamaha of laptops, eh? :)
 
Toshiba, Sony and HP are the only laptops that I like. Never cared for most other brand's laptops. As far as desktops go, why buy when you can build?

I personally prefer Avast over AVG, I will say AVG is good too though. To each his own. If it works for you there's no reason to switch.
 
Get an Apple...ya pay more...but what virus?...what crash?..what hassle?...plug in yer camera from a weekend of riding..no drivers needed...it'll load it up and unload yer movies or photos with ease...Throw em into iphoto or imovie and voila..burn to disc...
I've worked on a PC(Piece o' crap) for 5 years now after migrating from an apple..and although I've opened up my mind a bit...Microsoft and Dell hasn't...wierd..the company wants to save money..but after all the extras the purchase to make it right...its the equivelant to an Apple...
I know I'll get harassed on this issue...but hey...Vista '07 is Apple '03...get with the times...
And all the new macs can switch over to PC(windows or Vista) via Bootcamp or Paralells..thats 2 computers in 1...and you'd look cool as hell.

S.S. Over and out..
 
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The Bootcamp and Parallels features are pretty cool I will say that. I personally see no reason to switch over to an Apple though. I have not had a virus on any of my PC's in several years, they never break down on me, I can't remember the last time I saw a BSOD on one of my own machines.

For a novice computer user I think an Apple is a better choice. They are easier to learn on IMO. Not to mention they are more reliable. But I've been using PC's since I was 4 years old(17 years now) and I've never really had any desire to switch to a Apple. I know enough about PC's that it's not really a big deal if it were to break down on me anyway......and yes, before someone asks, I've used Apple machines many times.
 
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ya not everyone can be a computer geek quite like yourself. hey by the way you should make this pice of shit quit having them popups come up. can't even get on ebay they keep popping up.
 
shortstop20 said:
The Bootcamp and Parallels features are pretty cool I will say that. I personally see no reason to switch over to an Apple though. I have not had a virus on any of my PC's in several years, they never break down on me, I can't remember the last time I saw a BSOD on one of my own machines.

For a novice computer user I think an Apple is a better choice. They are easier to learn on IMO. Not to mention they are more reliable. But I've been using PC's since I was 4 years old(17 years now) and I've never really had any desire to switch to a Apple. I know enough about PC's that it's not really a big deal if it were to break down on me anyway......and yes, before someone asks, I've used Apple machines many times.
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I see the biggest drawback to an apple is they are not mainstream yet. I haven't worked in any business that uses apple computers. The ones that do are typically very specialized. My background is business computers. I even got some seat time on a mini mainframe before the cost and performance of PCs defeated the purpose. It is however interesting that in the workplace client server systems are becoming more prevalent again.

PC virus issues VS apple and linux virus issues is very simple. There are not enough apple computers out there to make it a target. Linux users are a pretty savvy group. Hackers target the huge number of easy target PCs out there.

I think these days any brand name computer is a reasonable purchase. Even the HP, and compaq of days gone past are decent machines any more. $500 at the local walmart will buy a decent machine that will perform the needs of the average users. For every user that has a problem with a Dell you can find a user that has had a problem with a gateway, an apple, a compaq an HP or any other brand computer. Much of it user induced.

I used to do contract warranty work for Dell, compaq, and gateway and store brand computers. There wasn't any one computer that stood out with more failures than any other except the store brand laptops (we quite selling them because of this). Many of the failures were shipping related or again, user induced.

ShortStop20 has a huge advantage over many. He has grown up with computers as I have grown up with telephones, VCRs and TVs. Did I give away my age? I think that whole old dog new tricks thing really comes forward with computers. Part of it is fear, part of it lack of desire.

Outsourcing tech support is simple economics. As Americans I feel we have really hurt ourselves. We DEMAND high wages and great benefits but low price high quality products. I have watched the people in my field take huge hits in employment opportunities because of this.
 
JeepTherapy said:
PC virus issues VS apple and linux virus issues is very simple. There are not enough apple computers out there to make it a target. Linux users are a pretty savvy group. Hackers target the huge number of easy target PCs out there.

You are exactly right there.

I think these days any brand name computer is a reasonable purchase. Even the HP, and compaq of days gone past are decent machines any more. $500 at the local walmart will buy a decent machine that will perform the needs of the average users. For every user that has a problem with a Dell you can find a user that has had a problem with a gateway, an apple, a compaq an HP or any other brand computer. Much of it user induced.

Yes, most stuff is user induced, there is no doubt about that.

ShortStop20 has a huge advantage over many. He has grown up with computers as I have grown up with telephones, VCRs and TVs. Did I give away my age? I think that whole old dog new tricks thing really comes forward with computers. Part of it is fear, part of it lack of desire.
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I can understand that as well. My dad learned how to use the computer about a year ago, it took a while to teach him but he can surf the internet all by himself now. I take for granted that I can use a computer very well but I try to remind myself that not everybody has used a computer every day of their life since they've been 4 years old. I should post the home video that my mom recorded of me entering in DOS commands at 5-6 years old to play my shareware games on floppy disks. It's pretty funny.
 
JeepTherapy said:
I see the biggest drawback to an apple is they are not mainstream yet. I haven't worked in any business that uses apple computers. The ones that do are typically very specialized. My background is business computers. I even got some seat time on a mini mainframe before the cost and performance of PCs defeated the purpose. It is however interesting that in the workplace client server systems are becoming more prevalent again.

PC virus issues VS apple and linux virus issues is very simple. There are not enough apple computers out there to make it a target. Linux users are a pretty savvy group. Hackers target the huge number of easy target PCs out there.

I think these days any brand name computer is a reasonable purchase. Even the HP, and compaq of days gone past are decent machines any more. $500 at the local walmart will buy a decent machine that will perform the needs of the average users. For every user that has a problem with a Dell you can find a user that has had a problem with a gateway, an apple, a compaq an HP or any other brand computer. Much of it user induced.

I used to do contract warranty work for Dell, compaq, and gateway and store brand computers. There wasn't any one computer that stood out with more failures than any other except the store brand laptops (we quite selling them because of this). Many of the failures were shipping related or again, user induced.

ShortStop20 has a huge advantage over many. He has grown up with computers as I have grown up with telephones, VCRs and TVs. Did I give away my age? I think that whole old dog new tricks thing really comes forward with computers. Part of it is fear, part of it lack of desire.

Outsourcing tech support is simple economics. As Americans I feel we have really hurt ourselves. We DEMAND high wages and great benefits but low price high quality products. I have watched the people in my field take huge hits in employment opportunities because of this.
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I agree. The biggest drawback that I see to a Mac is that all the software is specialized for that computer, whereas all the PCs use common software that is easy to find.
Ive never had any problems with any of my PCs. IMO, most people who prefer Macs just like being different.
Thats not to say that a Mac isnt a good computer though.
 
racerrob6m said:
Wont touch Dell as all of their "service" is out sourced to India!!
Ya I know its a world market but nothing pisses me off more than having to speak to some "tech" who can barely speak English.!!

I always buy my computers locally & fortunately, the guy I work with for home PC's & my business laptops is also a good snowmobile buddy of 20 years. Yep, they cost more, but its like sleds & most other things, ya gets what ya pay for!!

Good luck
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This is not entirely true. Dell does outsource a majority of their Home & Home Office tech support to India, but anything that's handled by their Small & Medium Business Division is handled by techs in the U.S. due to complaints and loss of sales.

Of course it's always good to have a local tech that you can trust, which it looks like you have.
 
I agree. I deal with a local used computer dealer. I can get an almost new computer for about half of what it would cost new and when I have a problem I can take it to him and I know I can trust him to fix it right the first time.
5 years ago we had a Compaq and their customer service was a nightmare. I swear, no matter when you called them you would be on hold for at least 45 minutes and then when you finally talked to someone they would act like you were an idiot if you didnt know all the technical computer jargon.
I also agree that we Americans have kinda cut our own throats. Racerrob6m really hit the nail on the head. When we demand high wages and great benefits but what high-quality products at low prices these companies dont have much choice. For them its a choice between finding a way to cut costs (which usually means cheaper labor) or bankruptcy.
I do see the tide turning though. Countires like Mexico, China, Korea and India are starting to have a higher standard of living and the people there are demanding higher pay and more benefits, so companies are moving back to the states.
Just the other day I was at the mall and they had an '08 Ford Focus on display. Those things used to have Japanese parts and were made in Mexico. That one was 75% American parts and was assembled in Michigan. Gotta love that.
 
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