how many studs are you running?

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hey everyone,

i was wondering how many studs you guys are running. I would like to add some studs up the middle of my track. My srx has never had studs in it, and i think its about time. I know my cousin is running 120 up the middle and he said traction is awesome with that amount. But then i hear 1 per HP, and that would bring me to 168 studs rounded. i dont want to run this many, especially when 120 will do. So i was just wondering what you guys run. Also my cousin has a 99 srx 700 with the same mods i have, also done by professionals. (i was told it hookoed great by the proffesional racer that instaled them)

Thanks, Nik
 
i was running 144 the past 4 years, it would spin a bit on take off then hook up good but im a bigger guy so theres more weight on the rear end, also i have adjustable transfer rods. This year i bought a new track and theres 192 studs in it. Im hoping it wont spin hardly at all on hard acceleration. I dont know about only running 120, guys do it i'd just be a little worried of pulling them out especially if you have engine mods done. just my 2 cents
 
I will be running 144 woody's 1.075" studs with a 4-2-4-2 pattern on a 1" Camoplast 6 pitch predator this year. I'm hoping that everything will work well for me this season. I came off of the stock track with 192 in it but blew the track out because the outside studs ripped out. I would say you want to go with at least 144 up the middle, I was even thinking of adding a few more studs to mine this year but decided I better try it out first.
 
i was thinking maybe 144 up the center would be ok to start. then if i feel that more are needed i can just add them later.
 
I ran 120 in my 02 viper (less HP then yours) for one season on my stock yoko...next season went with 168...much better traction with only a little more push in the stearing which can be fixed with suspesion adjustments. I wouldn't run less then 1 stud per HP on my sled...but that's only one man's opinion, others will say different.
 
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Nic - are you mostly drag racing or trail riding? You may find for trail riding that more than 120 studs will provide to much traction in the corners and really wear you out. I find 120 the correct amount for my Viper so I can throttle off the corners with a loose effect. looser is faster. More traction will have a tight effect and will slow you down because you will have to lift off the throttle earlier into a corner and get back into the throttle later. Its a personal preference thing. Remember you can always add more if needed.
 
Since trail studs don't hook up, running more doesn't help you out. They are too big to penetrate into the ground, and only gouge out when the track spins. Run 96, and get the tallest studs that you can get away with. Any more than that is going to slow you down. I've tried everything, and I used to run 96 1.075" Gold Diggers on my 780 big bore, on a .725" Camoplast 9791 track. They hook as well as 144 or 192, and you have a hell of alot less weight to turn, so it's not going to knock off a few mph on top end. Also, don't stud the outside if you want that track to live.
 
i will only be studding the centre. I have about 150-155 hp. It will be trail ridden more than anything. But i do want to do the occasional ice drag. But i will start out with 120 up the middle with about 1/4 above the lug. then if i feel that i need mroe i will add another 22 up the centre.
 
rancidjo said:
I ran 120 in my 02 viper (less HP then yours) for one season on my stock yoko...next season went with 168...much better traction with only a little more push in the stearing which can be fixed with suspesion adjustments. I wouldn't run less then 1 stud per HP on my sled...but that's only one man's opinion, others will say different.
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with 120 id didn't notice a WHOLE lot of top end loss...with 168 i really noticed my top speed go down
 
with studs, its the more studs you put in the LESS pressure is applied to each one individually. Think of those guys who lay on the bed of nails, they dont get hurt because the pressure is not great on any which single nail , if you removed half the nails they would look like a strainer...LOL

I agree with others as I only run studs in the center belt and only a minimal amount, if a sled has more power like say 140-160hp the most I would run is 144-168 all in the center. When you just have them in the center it turns easier, doesnt rip out as easy and doent deflect the track topend. Alot of times unless you hit something like a rock,stump etc, the ripped out studs will most of the time always be from the outer belts, making the track junk rather quickly, theres alot of pressure applied to the outside belts with studs in them just simply turning left or right on hard surfaces, no give.
 
mrviper700 said:
with studs, its the more studs you put in the LESS pressure is applied to each one individually. Think of those guys who lay on the bed of nails, they dont get hurt because the pressure is not great on any which single nail , if you removed half the nails they would look like a strainer...LOL
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I couldn't agree more. More studs being better is a misconception.....unless you're talking chisels or picks, which actually penetrate.
 
Glad to hear that Mr. Viper700 and Valin... I just put in 96 in a "V" pattern up the middle. I take it easy on my machine, so I don't fear bending, breaking, or tearing out studs.
Great advice guys... I'm sure you'll help many people out and save them some time and money!
 
I'm of the opinion that from a track durability standpoint, more is better. Obviously the first thing to do is to scrap the OEM track. I swapped the 1" aggressor track from my old XCR into my '01 SRX. It was fitted with 192 1.075" woodys with a stud in every outside segment. No pull-outs in nearly 4k miles (1500 in the SRX). I had run every other outside segment in the original Pol track and had two pull out in about 3k miles. I understand the idea behind running only down the middle and agree that it is best from a durability stand point, but this is too loose for my taste.

Also, again IMO, pull outs have more to do with rider abuse than with the number of studs installed. The kid down the street with his 240 studded ZRT pulled out over 50 in less than 30 miles. But he's a pull the cord and WOT kind of guy with no regard for conditions.
 
I got 144...unfortunetly up the sides and center(came with it when I bought it)...I absolutely hate them...On One point, studs add safety and great hook up etc...on another point...they hookup to good, and lose the fun factor in corners and make a hell'va racket on the pavement or over crusty areas...
I don't know...I was always partial on having studs and the benifits...but after riding my buddys machine (non studded)..it was way more fun, nimble and a blast to ride..sure you havfta slow down further ahead in corners..and ride more cautiously on ice...but in other ways..you gain a different kind've momentum...
I know you didn't ask for ones opinions on this subject...but I thought other on lookers thinking of doin it might be indifferent like myself...Personally if your not into racing but like some safety..those pre-studded tracks sound pretty good...or MACS 120 aswell...

just my 2cents

cheers
 
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Back in the day when trails weren't crowded like today, we ran studless and life was good (except for the few pile ups that occured). Now, I like having the ability of stabbing the brake at the apex of an icy curve when my sled us pushing or worse when the guy coming around the corner without studs is so loose he's on my side. In today's world, I wouldn't ride without them.
 
I run 192 in my SRX with center and every other rib on the outside. Combined miles on both SRX's around 8000 and never had a pull thru. I would not trail ride without them for safety reasons.
 
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