ExpertXViper
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Fast Eddie said:If you want some good sausage or sticks made talk to Les Dowker in Gaylord on Old 27. He's the man! Even if your in the area this winter you should stop by and get some bacon or sausage. You won't be disappointed. Or go to http://www.spiderwebranch.com/index.html. I believe you can shoot a 110 class buck for $900. Don't quote me. I've been to the spiderweb ranch before, it's pretty cool getting so close to the animals.
$900 for a 110 class deer.......WOW!!!!! I went to the site and it WOULD HAVE cost my old man $4200 JUST to shoot a buck like his (Non Ranch)U.P. 14 point Non-typical 275Lb.(230lb-235lb dressed out) buck that he payed $15 for a tag......LOL........ Ill try and post a pic of Clyde(yes we named him) in the next day or 2
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mrviper700
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Lmfao@ Bischof!!!
Gorkon, I see your from Canada......., you should move down to the U.S> and try to evade the laws and just say "NO", I wish it were just that easy. I promise to come visit you in jail....(kidding)
I actually used to be a "LAW " enforcement officer and I am curious as to what section you are referring to in the act as, what I read here is mostly for land sales and the cheque system, I cant seem to find where you can endorse a issued traffic,criminal summons, or any other "ticket" and consider it paid at face value, let me know, I would like to read it, thanx
Gorkon, I see your from Canada......., you should move down to the U.S> and try to evade the laws and just say "NO", I wish it were just that easy. I promise to come visit you in jail....(kidding)
I actually used to be a "LAW " enforcement officer and I am curious as to what section you are referring to in the act as, what I read here is mostly for land sales and the cheque system, I cant seem to find where you can endorse a issued traffic,criminal summons, or any other "ticket" and consider it paid at face value, let me know, I would like to read it, thanx
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Gorkon
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NOT "LAW", POLICY!!! Hence the name POLICe which comes from "policy". Officers are ACTORS, who can ACT in different capacities, the two main ones being "Peace Officer" and POLICE, i.e. Policy enforcers. I know they call them laws, but they are actually color-of-law policies, please read on. I don't evade the policies, I don't give the policy enforcers too much of a difficult time unless they do me, they're just ignorant of the facts and are on a need to know basis and according to the "higher ups", they don't need to know and are merely sacrificial lambs. The way the paper is dealt with is administratively in commerce. The courts, gov etc. is a commercial enterprise operating in commerce, thats why all of the policies deal exclusively with 'PERSONS" and not men and women. The all capital letter, last name first name on a ticket is a numbered, registered vessel in Admiralty. (The corporate entity UNITED STATES/CANADA operates in an admiralty/maritime jurisdiction, hence the gold fringe on the flag in the courtrooms and the Blue Pill and Red Pill in the Matrix, i.e. Sea water and Blood= flesh and blood=blood of christ, i.e. the private side) This being the whole point, two worlds, one real, i.e. flesh and blood and one fictional, UNITED STATES and all of the offices, agencies etc thereof, hence all men and women who work for said corporate entity are ACTORS dressed in costume. In other words, if I see a guy dressed in a humpty dumpty costume, I don't think that he's humpty dumpty! He's just a man, and all men are equal! The illusion is that once that costume is donned by these people, they believe that equality under the law flys out the window! Not so! Consider the following from the US Supreme Court:
"Inasmuch as every government is an artificial person, an abstraction, and a creature of the mind only, a government can interface only with other artificial persons. The imaginary, having neither actuality nor substance, is foreclosed from creating and attaining parity with the tangible. The legal manifestation of this is that no government, as well as any law, agency, aspect, court, etc. thereof can concern itself with anything other than corporate, artificial persons and the contracts between them." [underline and bold emphasis added] S.C.R. 1795, Penhallow v. Doane's Administraters (3 U.S. 54; 1 L.Ed. 57; 3 Dall. 54)
There is a rampant errant belief that majority rules. Majority rules is repugnant to, contrary to, and in contempt of equality under the law! For if you have majority rule, thats just a nice way of saying MOB rule, you don't have equality, you have SLAVERY! You cannot decide for me because you don't have any more rights than me, that means that you can't now get together with your neighbor and decide for me, because if we're all equal, then two zeros is still zero and so is fifty million zeros! Hence POLICIES of UNITED STATES only applying to PERSONS and not men and women! They have to be that way because they cannot make them apply to men and women because of equality under the law.
"That the majority shall prevail is a rule posterior to the formation of government, and results from it. It is not a rule binding upon mankind in their natural state. There, every man is independent of all laws, except those prescribed by nature. He is not bound by any institutions formed by his fellowmen without his consent." CRUDEN v. NEALE, 2 N.C. 338 (1796) 2 S.E. 70. Emphasis added.
The rub is that everyone "operates" a PERSON in commerce and the policies do apply to it! The answer is to understand this and know how to operate it in commerce and not be held to use your body to settle its accounts. Really, how can a fictional entity have a claim/interest in/against the labor of a man????
Now that takes an understanding of money and the fact that there isn't any. If we want to have newer and better Yamahas, fix our homes and our cars, then we need to understand this. In every area where we are wanting for something we don't have, it just about always comes back to the want, need, or lack of money!!! AND THERE ISN'T ANY!!
You involve yourselves in commercial transactions every single day, yet every one of them you do wrong! You place your purchase down on the counter in front of the clerk and the clerk rings it through, the announces the charge "in-voice", then waits for all of the dummies to volunteer payment when they were never obligated to pay in the first place, BECAUSE THEY NEVER GAVE A BILL!!!! You get invoices and statements of account in the mail, seldom ever BILLS. There is no obligation to pay an invoice or statement of account, only a BILL!
The reason for all of this is House Joint Resolution 192 of the 73rd congress which abrogated the gold standard in 1933. It is public policy that makes it illegal for "PERSONS" to pay debts in gold or demand payment in gold, or any amount of money measured thereby, or any particular kind of coin of currency. (Don't confuse transactions between men which involves exchange with transactions between persons)
Now, they can't take away the gold, i.e. your ability to pay debts, then demand payment, so they had to provide you a remedy, and they did. That language is also in HJR-192, but I won't go into it here, too much already. Below is from Canada's Bills of Exchange Act, which is the same as Britains Bills of Exchange Act, which is the same as the Law of Negotiable Instruments Act in the US. You may have difficulty locating the Law of Negotiable Instruments Act as it is very old and has been morphed into the "Uniform Commercial Code" (UCC). You'll find what you're looking for there in article 9 which deals with negotiable instruments.
57. (1) Every party whose signature appears on a bill is, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, deemed to have become a party thereto for value.
See? If you sign it, you gave it value! Your signature is the value!!! This is why they don't give you bills, if they did, all that you would have to do is write "accepted" sign it and return it to them and the account is payed. They're stealing your labor! The IRS had to be liquidated for a bunch before they smartened up, this is why the IRS began providing a REMITTANCE VOUCHER with the statement, it is the check!!! Look up the meaning of those two words, it is a species of currency! Accept it for value and return it, account is payed! You must remember the simple legal maxim, THE ONE WHO CREATES THE LIABILITY MUST PROVIDE THE REMEDY!!!! This language above from the BOE act is as close to saying what you're looking for as there is to my knowledge. Understand that what you will find is written ambiguously because they really don't want you to understand, they had to provide the remedy, they didn't have to make it easy!
Anyway, this probably all too much for most and I won't spend any more time on it here, my previous posts here are full of little gems that explains much if you have the eyes to see. I answered initially because of my love for fellow man, and to see everybody have a better lives (and Yamahas), instead of being tricked into handing over the fruits of their labor to an ENTITY! For those who are interested or intriged, I suggest that you google "Winston Shrout, Solutions in Commerce". You will find a website where you can order seminars that this man has done. This information will flat out blow you away and if applied, set you free as it has done me. Really, you cannot aford to be without this knowledge, nor can your children!!! The end result will be good for all, even your company UNITED STATES! This is not about greed, getting something for nothing or about injuring anybody. This is about learning how to properly operate the system that was put there for you operate, something that BAR attornies and the government would prefer that you didn't know because they will no longer get your labor for free! Peace brothers, I pray that this helps someone. G.
"Inasmuch as every government is an artificial person, an abstraction, and a creature of the mind only, a government can interface only with other artificial persons. The imaginary, having neither actuality nor substance, is foreclosed from creating and attaining parity with the tangible. The legal manifestation of this is that no government, as well as any law, agency, aspect, court, etc. thereof can concern itself with anything other than corporate, artificial persons and the contracts between them." [underline and bold emphasis added] S.C.R. 1795, Penhallow v. Doane's Administraters (3 U.S. 54; 1 L.Ed. 57; 3 Dall. 54)
There is a rampant errant belief that majority rules. Majority rules is repugnant to, contrary to, and in contempt of equality under the law! For if you have majority rule, thats just a nice way of saying MOB rule, you don't have equality, you have SLAVERY! You cannot decide for me because you don't have any more rights than me, that means that you can't now get together with your neighbor and decide for me, because if we're all equal, then two zeros is still zero and so is fifty million zeros! Hence POLICIES of UNITED STATES only applying to PERSONS and not men and women! They have to be that way because they cannot make them apply to men and women because of equality under the law.
"That the majority shall prevail is a rule posterior to the formation of government, and results from it. It is not a rule binding upon mankind in their natural state. There, every man is independent of all laws, except those prescribed by nature. He is not bound by any institutions formed by his fellowmen without his consent." CRUDEN v. NEALE, 2 N.C. 338 (1796) 2 S.E. 70. Emphasis added.
The rub is that everyone "operates" a PERSON in commerce and the policies do apply to it! The answer is to understand this and know how to operate it in commerce and not be held to use your body to settle its accounts. Really, how can a fictional entity have a claim/interest in/against the labor of a man????
Now that takes an understanding of money and the fact that there isn't any. If we want to have newer and better Yamahas, fix our homes and our cars, then we need to understand this. In every area where we are wanting for something we don't have, it just about always comes back to the want, need, or lack of money!!! AND THERE ISN'T ANY!!
You involve yourselves in commercial transactions every single day, yet every one of them you do wrong! You place your purchase down on the counter in front of the clerk and the clerk rings it through, the announces the charge "in-voice", then waits for all of the dummies to volunteer payment when they were never obligated to pay in the first place, BECAUSE THEY NEVER GAVE A BILL!!!! You get invoices and statements of account in the mail, seldom ever BILLS. There is no obligation to pay an invoice or statement of account, only a BILL!
The reason for all of this is House Joint Resolution 192 of the 73rd congress which abrogated the gold standard in 1933. It is public policy that makes it illegal for "PERSONS" to pay debts in gold or demand payment in gold, or any amount of money measured thereby, or any particular kind of coin of currency. (Don't confuse transactions between men which involves exchange with transactions between persons)
Now, they can't take away the gold, i.e. your ability to pay debts, then demand payment, so they had to provide you a remedy, and they did. That language is also in HJR-192, but I won't go into it here, too much already. Below is from Canada's Bills of Exchange Act, which is the same as Britains Bills of Exchange Act, which is the same as the Law of Negotiable Instruments Act in the US. You may have difficulty locating the Law of Negotiable Instruments Act as it is very old and has been morphed into the "Uniform Commercial Code" (UCC). You'll find what you're looking for there in article 9 which deals with negotiable instruments.
57. (1) Every party whose signature appears on a bill is, in the absence of evidence to the contrary, deemed to have become a party thereto for value.
See? If you sign it, you gave it value! Your signature is the value!!! This is why they don't give you bills, if they did, all that you would have to do is write "accepted" sign it and return it to them and the account is payed. They're stealing your labor! The IRS had to be liquidated for a bunch before they smartened up, this is why the IRS began providing a REMITTANCE VOUCHER with the statement, it is the check!!! Look up the meaning of those two words, it is a species of currency! Accept it for value and return it, account is payed! You must remember the simple legal maxim, THE ONE WHO CREATES THE LIABILITY MUST PROVIDE THE REMEDY!!!! This language above from the BOE act is as close to saying what you're looking for as there is to my knowledge. Understand that what you will find is written ambiguously because they really don't want you to understand, they had to provide the remedy, they didn't have to make it easy!
Anyway, this probably all too much for most and I won't spend any more time on it here, my previous posts here are full of little gems that explains much if you have the eyes to see. I answered initially because of my love for fellow man, and to see everybody have a better lives (and Yamahas), instead of being tricked into handing over the fruits of their labor to an ENTITY! For those who are interested or intriged, I suggest that you google "Winston Shrout, Solutions in Commerce". You will find a website where you can order seminars that this man has done. This information will flat out blow you away and if applied, set you free as it has done me. Really, you cannot aford to be without this knowledge, nor can your children!!! The end result will be good for all, even your company UNITED STATES! This is not about greed, getting something for nothing or about injuring anybody. This is about learning how to properly operate the system that was put there for you operate, something that BAR attornies and the government would prefer that you didn't know because they will no longer get your labor for free! Peace brothers, I pray that this helps someone. G.
Gorkon
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nosboy said:GORKON,,, I LOVE YOU!!!! I thought I was the only one who was ABSOLUTELY NUTS on this website!!!! if you told that to the cops in Chicago,,, the'd BEAT the SNOTS out of you and throw you in the lagoon!!!!! They'd come get you an HOUR later and lock you up for 72 hours!!!!!
They'll only do it ONCE! I'll have them rotten crooks bonded and liquidated so fast it'd make their heads spin. Firstly, I have an indemnity bond lodged in the treasury that pays anything they bring, so they won't bring it and if I went in, I'd be out in a jiff. Secondly, if they beat me up, they are operating outside the scope of the authority of their office and their limited liability insurance will not cover them rendering the stoopid thugs privately liable where I can liquidate their houses, cars, wifey's jewelry, even the kids toys if they really piss me off! You liquidate public servants ONCE, and they will never bother you again, EVER! We have all the power, you just need to know who you are and how to operate in the system.
I wouldn't say I was nuts, but my friends do call me crazy and I won't argue with that, I'm just not stupid. Best. G.
you're right about the rotten crooks!!! They are so OUT OF CONTROL.... I could tell you story after story but TOM don't appreciate my COPS stories!!!! I don't have much time left before I can pull the plug and go live somewhere else,, so I am just byding my time.... GOOD POST!!!!
2001SRX=Fast
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Bischof Your always a laugh or 2
Gorkon
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No more tickets, more money for Yamahas!
You don't have to move, honest. If you want control back and to understand what is really going on, obtain Winstons material, SERIOUS! They are all operating a public vehicle (office) and like any other vehicle operating in the public, it must be insured (bonded)! You go after that insurance, Winston shows you how, and they are done, out of a job! They're terrified of it and once they know that you know, once you've done it once, you're a free man, free and much better off financially too! This and much, much more! Peace brother. G.
nosboy said:you're right about the rotten crooks!!! They are so OUT OF CONTROL.... I could tell you story after story but TOM don't appreciate my COPS stories!!!! I don't have much time left before I can pull the plug and go live somewhere else,, so I am just byding my time.... GOOD POST!!!!
You don't have to move, honest. If you want control back and to understand what is really going on, obtain Winstons material, SERIOUS! They are all operating a public vehicle (office) and like any other vehicle operating in the public, it must be insured (bonded)! You go after that insurance, Winston shows you how, and they are done, out of a job! They're terrified of it and once they know that you know, once you've done it once, you're a free man, free and much better off financially too! This and much, much more! Peace brother. G.