srx just ain't competing with newer sleds

Like as mentioned before, go back to stock. You all say your clutch kit works and this and that im calling BS until i see it in front of my eyes. I have a 100% bone stock engine and setup, different rear skid but i think that actually took some away from the sled. I have never to this day seen an SRX that was stock like mine and only had clutch work done do anything but look at my taillight. Now im not saying things in sanctioned events haven't proven me wrong but from my average joe shmoe just lining up with the other guys just out riding like me those are my findings

Best thing to do on the sled is like Expert mentioned, Maintenance

Im not saying my sled is the fastest thing out there because it gets beat too, but def. not by a smaller cc sled

Here is a setup that worked awesome for me.
Clutching STOCK
.725" fullblock track
1" megabites
Bender TS-3 rods set on the 3rd from top line
 

Ok you rev to 8700 at times.....big loss in power....get the 51/43 helix and green spring. Wrap that to 70.... Sounds like your primary is www and 4.5 in each hole so that is fine. Now get adjustable rods....they are unreal as to how far the skis can pull up if you want to do that!!! I have a 2001 also with about the same compression and it has 4900 miles and it is FAST...I also have the same track, stock gearing, clutching mentioned, REVERSE, and transfer rods. It is a fast machine....my buddy with his new 600 sdi isn't even a race and he weights about 150 compared to my 225.
 
srx4life said:
yes traction is good
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If traction is good why do you want more transfer?If you are looking for more speed than as said drop the ripsaw for a lighter track or pull up the limiters and adjust for less transfer.
 
Like Zach said, maybe you should rethink your clutch set up, the 1 1/4" track will take away from your top end performance, when you say it's slower, how slow is it? You have to keep that tach down at 8500, you may need just a little softer spring or a little more helix on the finish. Because you have no studs you want to try to keep your engagement on the lower side so you don't roast the track off the line. Also, because of the track, set your suspension up to give you almost too much transfer for better traction. Change the upper washer on your tranfer rods, put the 2mm one in it, it will help you a bunch.
 
Theres nothing wrong with the clutching you have in the sled, you dont need to add finish angle to the helix, if it sightly over revs, just add 1 washer to the tip rivet and it will be perfect, make sure the washer doesnt stick up above the weight to roller surface.

Does the sled pick up the skis on take off? or just spin a big rooster tail of snow out the back, by reading your post it sounds to me like you need to set up the suspension to take advantage of the more aggressive clutching, that clutching has been proven over the years, it works. Post back results and someone can help you adjust the skidframe from there, you might just need to let out the front limiter straps to let the new track grab ahold of the ground, if they are up too far, the track is only half on the ground somewhat, and you spin,spin,spin, and you wont win any races thats for sure.
 
mrviper700 said:
Theres nothing wrong with the clutching you have in the sled, you dont need to add finish angle to the helix, if it sightly over revs, just add 1 washer to the tip rivet and it will be perfect, make sure the washer doesnt stick up above the weight to roller surface.

Does the sled pick up the skis on take off? or just spin a big rooster tail of snow out the back, by reading your post it sounds to me like you need to set up the suspension to take advantage of the more aggressive clutching, that clutching has been proven over the years, it works. Post back results and someone can help you adjust the skidframe from there, you might just need to let out the front limiter straps to let the new track grab ahold of the ground, if they are up too far, the track is only half on the ground somewhat, and you spin,spin,spin, and you wont win any races thats for sure.
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Question for ya. My SRX lifts the skis at first then quicky drops forward then spins the track alot, this going from idle to W/O. This in on stock track with 192 studs on hard pack. Compare it to my clutched/expertx/1.25in Pred non studded Viper in the same conditions, it lifts out of the hole but dosent slam down or lose traction like my SRX does. What gives on my no action??? more weight transfer???
 
srx4life said:
johnnysrx thanks for the advice, thats the kind of unbiased information that i am looking for. The truth is that I am by no means a strict racer. I line up every time i go out with the guys but not at any organized race track. My concern is that everyone that has a stock srx seems to talk about their srx and how fast they are stock. Well the truth in my opinion is that they were a fast "stock sled" for their day, however it seems that people arent willing to accept that many new sleds can now perform just as well stock as the srx stock. Dont get me wrong I know this sled has alot of potential to be killer if you have the $$$$ but keep in mind I am not racing hardcore guys and they can still take me in the short haul with their barely modded sleds
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Beacuse my sled runs so good I'm having difficulties believing that the stock guys are doing so well when my clutching and track combo has given me much better performance than stock and I am still having a hard time.

BTW guys im obviously not trying to knock the srx but after all the reading, and add ons that I have done to try and slap the cats and poo's around, I'm just alitle discouraged. I've heard too many good stories about this muscle sled to not raise the issue.

I beleive that I may be able to gain alot from suspension tunning. I truly beleive this is where I am missing the boat and any advice to set up this stock suspension is appreciated..
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I KNOW WHAT YOUR SAYING HERE, BUT I DON,T THINK TIME HAS PAST THE SRX BUY. I STILL THINK IT CAN HOLD ITS OWN AGAINST ANYTHING OUT THERE. 3:16 (yammie tony)
 
To mr viper the sled picks the skies up probably 2" off the ground but does seem to lack in the tracktion dept. cuz it does roost a tail!! Like what you mention what I need is the help to set up the skid for a guy thats 190lbs. Also the sled seems to pull crooked?? could this be adjusted through the skid??
 
May I step in. You say you cleaned the power valves. Make sure the all the cables are still hooked onto the valves and are not broken.
 
Since when has 145hp "had it's day"? I don't think an rmk, f6, summit, or rage have ever had a 145hp day! That sled makes enough power to wax any of the previous sleds, i'm with 3:16, the f7 should be your only hassle. I don't think you are getting the power to the ground, get some transfer rods and let your straps out. You may be digging a trench and not going anywhere. Been there done that with my 99 srx using my friends viper as a baseline.
 
My SRX does same thing,spins out like crazy.My limiters are not really tightened to much.What thread distance is left ahead of the nut on the limiters,probably very little or none.With maximun performance rods,I started out with a 50/50 gap top and bottom when sitting on sled.I now have the rods at max. transfer now.
 
if the sleds pulls to 1 side, then it needs attention setting the limiter straps to be exactly the same, one must be higher/lower then the other side, how much thread do you have showing on the adjusters?

where is the FRA adjuster bolt set to?

how much thread is showing on the rear shock?
 
I'm not an expert like most of these guys on here, but on hard pack studs help immensely, big difference with and without studs!
 
Somebody already pointed this out, but 8700 is too high. The CDI starts to pull timing to prevent overrev, past 8600. And, if your tach is slightly off in terms of calibration, you could actually be pulling more than 8700, which would be disasterous. Even if you are seeing 8500 on the tach, you are flirting with the overrev protection, and this is enough to lose races. If you are not an experienced clutch tuner, you are leaving hp on the table. Clutch tuning is in many ways, similar to jetting, in that it is best set for a given set of conditions. Most of us do not do this, but experienced racers will testify to this discipline.
 
Point number 2, the SRX is still a force to be reckoned with. 145hp is right up there with everything except for the newest 800s and the recent 1000s. The difference is that a triple has a flatter torque curve than a twin and will have more 'total' hp over the rev range. Also, the SRX has a low slung skid and this translates to more track hp than longer travel newer sleds. Sled Tech magazine tested the 2000 SRX on their track dyno, and it pulled the same track hp as the 800 Mach Z and 800 XCR, both of which were 155 hp sleds.

The key is traction. I currently have an Expert X in my 2002, but even with my Proaction, I was able to hook very well, without transfer bars. Simply let out the straps all the way and preload the front skid shock very stiff, and the sled will rock back and lift the skis on launch. Exercise caution with this setup as it will wear hyfax out quickly in marginal snow and will lead to broken w-arms in very rough trails.

Out on White Lake last winter, I was stomping lots of new iron, including F7's. My sled has the Expert X, widened front end, 1st generation Heel Clickers (Gray spring, 40/20s, no heel weight, 6 grams in thr center hole) and the heelclicker roller secondary. It also has the bender silencer.
 
hey guys thanks for all the tips.. I will be taking a carefull look at the rear skid over the weekend and post the current set-up ie: limiter strap/shock settings...etc Geez I guess this post really caught some attention!!!!! just what i was looking for...LoL I hope with all of the good info i will be able to make this baby dance...... stay tuned and keep on posting some set ups, i'm sure you's are answering many other ppl's same concern!!!
 
Bluewho I was kidding in my last comment about drawing attention, its not about having fun toying with people on here. I was refering to the amount of posts that have been added to this thread. I follow up religiously to the threads that I post and have never received so many feedbacks on previous posts. What I initially posted is definately the truth and not just for "fun" therefore their is nothing for me to be "Right" about. I appreciate all of the feedback from the Ty user's and I am definately going to apply the knowledge that has been shared here. Thanks again to everybody for the valuable advice and keep on posting.
 
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